Re: Bug #67746

2000-08-11 Thread Gerhard Poul
> I know of, but am not that familiar with, mrtg. I thought it used > perl-snmp for its data collection. Is this not correct? That's right, mrtg uses perl-snmp but you can create custom scripts which are used to generate statistics for other values than traffic. For these scripts many people (i

Re: Bug #67746

2000-08-07 Thread Gerhard Poul
> In practice, you're likely to find that release notes for the unstable > distribution change so infrequently that people ignore them until it's > too late. People often do things like upgrading daily. poor people... but there are some people out there who try to use debian in production systems

Re: Bug #67746

2000-08-07 Thread Gerhard Poul
> IMHO, the snmpget, snmpwalk, etc., utilities are best used for testing > and debugging agents. If you wan to do real network management, you > should probably be using scotty, perl-snmp or something similar which > provide programatic support. Of course, I'm biased since I developed > commercia

Re: Bug #67746

2000-08-05 Thread Gerhard Poul
> Perhaps. It's been my experience, though, that changing the package > name just upsets a different set of users. In other words, it's a no > win situation. I also don't like this way because it is confusing after an upgrade but it might be a reasonable workaround. > > Since the maintainer (Da

Re: Bug #67746

2000-08-05 Thread Gerhard Poul
> If you think a package should be doing this then file a bug against the > package. Possibly with severity wishlist if it's not crippling, just > annoying. IMHO it is much better to have a central list of changes in the release notes because it is much more user friendly to run apt-get upgrad

Re: Bug #67746

2000-08-05 Thread Gerhard Poul
> > please take a look at http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards_34.html#SEC34 in > > the gnu coding standards. I think such a utility is barely needed by debian > > and maybe also other distributions. _user_ _visible_ changes are _worth_ > > to be documented. > > That link points to an explanation a

Re: Bug #67746

2000-08-05 Thread Gerhard Poul
> To summarize the bug: the logging behavior of the snmp package changed > when we switched from CMU SNMP to the UCD implementation. Yes, the user interface which might be used by many people of an essential remote monitoring tool changed without any notice by the system administrator. (and it is

Bug #67746

2000-08-04 Thread Gerhard Poul
The message in this bug might be interesting for you. (I hope so) I think this is really important for a distribution but some of the maintainers seem to disagree with me in this point. Please read the thread and reply to this bug in the bug tracking system or discuss this on the qa mailing lis