Re: Idea for maintaining packages up for adoption

2005-07-20 Thread Benjamin BAYART
> > - with the bug tracking system, you have a patch which sleeps there for > > years, waiting for someone to care > > Because, of course, the debian bts is inaccessible to everyone but > debian developers... Recently (a few months ago) the debian-qa team did an update of dvidvi, applying the

Re: Idea for maintaining packages up for adoption

2005-07-19 Thread Benjamin BAYART
Le Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 05:41:01AM -0400, Michael Stone: > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 10:34:05AM +0200, Benjamin BAYART wrote: > >If a package is orphaned in Debian, but still have users and people > >willing to maintain the software, this proposition can help. > > I

Re: Idea for maintaining packages up for adoption

2005-07-19 Thread Benjamin BAYART
> and I can't see how the proposal will add anything that > can't already be done if you have active users & developers. The main difference is between having developpers and having Debian-developpers. When you say a package is orphaned this is a Debian status, which might not be that right in the

Re:%20Re: Idea for maintaining packages up for adoption

2005-07-16 Thread Benjamin BAYART
[Same remark: I answer from the web package, so no quotation, sorry] I agree with you, as you know :-) That would lead to several groups like the debian-perl one, one of those being debian-orphaned. Another, of more interest for me, would be a debian-texware to maintain packages in the TeX world

Re:%20Re: Idea for maintaining packages up for adoption

2005-07-16 Thread Benjamin BAYART
[Sorry not to quote you, I'm answering from the web interfae] There would be mainly two differences from the current situation: 1. A user of the package can have acces to the patched source and build the fixed package automaticaly, this is a way to obtain the fixed package without waiting fo

Re: Idea for maintaining packages up for adoption

2005-07-15 Thread Benjamin BAYART
Le Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 03:25:44PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar: > > As far as I can see though, there are not really technical problems > with the low maintainance of orphaned packages, but more the reason > that they are still orphaned -- nobody has a really big interest in > them. When you say

Re: Idea for maintaining packages up for adoption

2005-07-15 Thread Benjamin BAYART
Mike Stone: > > If you're pretty much automatically accepting any kind of contribution > it's not a debian package any more. Just set up your own package archive > somewhere for packages like this and encourage people to use it. > notquitedebian.org is available... My guess is that it sounds lik

Re: Idea for maintaining packages up for adoption

2005-07-13 Thread Benjamin Bayart
Le Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 07:57:32PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld: > > > > As smooth an upgrade as with any other distribution of any operating > > system, free or not. > > Ok, I can understand that it makes it you sad that a package you like > and use should be removed from Debian unstable. Well, yes

Re: Idea for maintaining packages up for adoption

2005-07-13 Thread Benjamin Bayart
Le Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 05:54:51PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld: > > But this doesn't depend on the availability of a VCS but on the > availability of people to upload the package. Perhaps during > creating the former you find the latter ones. But that's about > marketing, not about technical solution

Re: Idea for maintaining packages up for adoption

2005-07-13 Thread Benjamin Bayart
Le Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 05:41:54PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld: > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 12:25:50PM +0200, Benjamin Bayart wrote: > > Le Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 04:14:52AM +0900, Masayuki Hatta: > > By the way I do have some other patches on this package, but there seem > &g

Re: Idea for maintaining packages up for adoption

2005-07-13 Thread Benjamin Bayart
Le Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 04:32:30PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld: [ I previously sent a "private" answer to Frank, because I didn't know I was allowed to post to the mailing lists. Sorry if you receive some of the informations twice. ] > I'm still not convinced that this is really superior to just let

Re: Idea for maintaining packages up for adoption

2005-07-13 Thread Benjamin Bayart
Le Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 04:14:52AM +0900, Masayuki Hatta: > > > The problem is then : we have knowledgeable people willing to help > > but we don't have a Debian maintainer for them. Benjamin sent > > several patchs in the BTS and they are still there... waiting to be > > applied. > > I'm the mai