Re: Orphaned packages with very low popcon numbers

2006-06-11 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If they require *any* maintenance, they are a waste of our time. QA has > hundreds of packages to maintain, most of which have far, far more users. > (Some have several thousand popcon installations.) Um, great. I've been quite happy not to spend

Re: Orphaned packages with very low popcon numbers

2006-06-11 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > Well, as long as there are no RC bugs, and the packages are in testing, > I really see no need to remove them. Well, *if* they are in good shape and require absolutely *no* maintenance, they should be kept, yes. Blackbook may be in this situation. (Checks: blackbook is dea

Re: Orphaned packages with very low popcon numbers

2006-06-11 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I'd prefer Debian releases to consist of properly supported packages as >> much as possible. It's not as if we want to forcibly delete the packages >> from our user's machines, we'd just acknowledge that they aren't >>

Re: Orphaned packages with very low popcon numbers

2006-06-11 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'd prefer Debian releases to consist of properly supported packages as > much as possible. It's not as if we want to forcibly delete the packages > from our user's machines, we'd just acknowledge that they aren't > maintained anymore. Me too, but I w

Re: Unsuccessfull try to report a bug with fix against yaboot (orphaned) via mail

2006-06-11 Thread Peter Voigt
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 06:26:51PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > have you been able to submit that bug report now? Yes. Its now bug #372780. After changing the mail-program (max os mail --> mutt) it works. Friendly Peter Voigt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "

Re: Orphaned packages with very low popcon numbers

2006-06-11 Thread Luk Claes
Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > Hi Luk! Hi Bas > You wrote: > >>> In other words, if almost no-one uses them, does it matter if the packages >>> are of decent quality? Also, if almost no-one uses them, how do you know >>> they're of bad quality? >> It does matter if they are of decent quality as we need

Re: Orphaned packages with very low popcon numbers

2006-06-11 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > Well, as long as there are no RC bugs, and the packages are in testing, > I really see no need to remove them. Even if only a few people use the > package, why annoy them by removing it from Debian? I'd prefer Debian releases to consist of properly supported packages as muc

Re: Orphaned packages with very low popcon numbers

2006-06-11 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Luk! You wrote: > > In other words, if almost no-one uses them, does it matter if the packages > > are of decent quality? Also, if almost no-one uses them, how do you know > > they're of bad quality? > > It does matter if they are of decent quality as we need to support them > (mirrors, infr

Re: Orphaned packages with very low popcon numbers

2006-06-11 Thread Luk Claes
Jamie Wilkinson wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Luk Claes wrote: >> How can we be sure the packages are of decent quality if almost noone >> uses them? How can we be sure there are (almost) no unreported RC bugs >> for instance? > > If a tree falls in a forest, and no-one is there to hear it

Re: Orphaned packages with very low popcon numbers

2006-06-11 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Luk Claes wrote: >How can we be sure the packages are of decent quality if almost noone >uses them? How can we be sure there are (almost) no unreported RC bugs >for instance? If a tree falls in a forest, and no-one is there to hear it, does it make a sound? How can yo

Re: Orphaned packages with very low popcon numbers

2006-06-11 Thread Luk Claes
Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > Hi Nathanael! > > You wrote: > >> "Very low" is defined as less than 20 installations. Votes are noted only >> for >> packages which aren't "no files". >> With 13184 installations reporting to popcon, 20 installations represents >> less than one installation in 500. >> I

Re: Orphaned packages with very low popcon numbers

2006-06-11 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Nathanael! You wrote: > "Very low" is defined as less than 20 installations. Votes are noted only for > packages which aren't "no files". > With 13184 installations reporting to popcon, 20 installations represents > less than one installation in 500. > I think all of these are candidates for