First post on -qa for me, I am not a DD and I joined the list after
Raphael's QA talk at RMLL.
On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 08:19:57AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Le mercredi 20 juillet 2005 à 17:52 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG a écrit :
> > Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr
Le mercredi 20 juillet 2005 à 17:52 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG a écrit :
> Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > But building packages from a suvbersion repository can be done
> > automatically. So yes, we could provide automatically unofficial
> > packages to the users.
>
> I'm fine
Le mercredi 20 juillet 2005 à 23:44 +0100, tim hall a écrit :
> Last Wednesday 20 July 2005 16:10, Robert Lemmen was like:
> > so i'd say: a good way to notify maintainers of patches against their
> > packages (apart from the bts) is probably cool. making it
> > ubuntu-specific or (yuck!) applying
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> But building packages from a suvbersion repository can be done
> automatically. So yes, we could provide automatically unofficial
> packages to the users.
I'm fine with that, but I'm against making them official packages.
Which means we need to do n
Hello Raphaël,
In my opinion, debtags isn't yet at the point to "demand" debtags from
the maintainers. Our vocabulary is still in a state of flux, in fact we
have been discussing and changing the top-level facets again.
There is no notion of "complete" yet, most likely some facets will be
required
Last Wednesday 20 July 2005 16:10, Robert Lemmen was like:
> so i'd say: a good way to notify maintainers of patches against their
> packages (apart from the bts) is probably cool. making it
> ubuntu-specific or (yuck!) applying these patches (semi-)automatically
> is bad.
Yup, it needs to work fo
Last Wednesday 20 July 2005 21:53, Raphaël Hertzog was like:
> Hello,
>
> following the previous thread concerning listing of ubuntu patches in
> the PTS, I have a similar idea but concerning the debtags project.
>
> Erich, could you provide (regularly, at least daily) a file listing
> packages whi
Hello,
following the previous thread concerning listing of ubuntu patches in
the PTS, I have a similar idea but concerning the debtags project.
Erich, could you provide (regularly, at least daily) a file listing
packages which are not yet fully categorized within debtags ?
If possible i'd like i
Robert Lemmen wrote:
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> so i'd say: a good way to notify maintainers of patches against their
> packages (apart from the bts) is probably cool. making it
> ubuntu-specific or (yuck!) applying these patches (semi-)automatically
> is bad.
I like the general idea however this can be really trick
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 07:57:27AM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> They aren't necessarily more important changes, but Ubuntu, unlike other
> derivatives, publishes deltas relative to Debian so that maintainers can
> review them easily.
>
> If similar facilities are available for any other Debian d
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 04:14:38PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
It's possible that we over-estimate the "pros" but doing this can't harm
us, so there's no reason for you to stop us.
Who's stopping you? I'm not allowed to have the opinion that it's an
oversold idea? I already said that if you t
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 11:46:50AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Why are changes made by one particular derived debian distribution so
> important that they should be singled out by the PTS?
They aren't necessarily more important changes, but Ubuntu, unlike other
derivatives, publishes deltas relative
Le mercredi 20 juillet 2005 à 09:19 -0400, Michael Stone a écrit :
> >efforts. And, yes, a patch in a BTS is only accessible to developpers,
> >not to users. Users does not know how to apply a patch and compile a
> >program, this is why they use a distribution.
>
> So, ordinary users can't pull a
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 01:49:15PM +0200, Benjamin BAYART wrote:
Recently (a few months ago) the debian-qa team did an update of dvidvi,
applying the patches that were in the BTS. Before that, bugs have been
in open state, some with patches attached, for more than 5 years.
But they're applied n
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 12:43:55PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
No, just because there is an Ubuntu patch does not mean the patch
should be in the BTS
That's obvious. What is desired is that if there is a useful patch that
someone submit it to the BTS (perhaps with a wishlist tag) rather than
g
Last Wednesday 20 July 2005 12:00, Robert Lemmen was like:
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 12:33:02PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > well, but these patches should go into the debian BTS then. I agree with
> > Joey here that showing "oh, there is a ubuntu-patch" is not the most
> > appropriate thing.
>
> > - with the bug tracking system, you have a patch which sleeps there for
> > years, waiting for someone to care
>
> Because, of course, the debian bts is inaccessible to everyone but
> debian developers...
Recently (a few months ago) the debian-qa team did an update of dvidvi,
applying the
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Santiago Vila wrote:
It should not be a bug to do things differently than Ubuntu.
For this purpose there is the "wontfix" tag.
Kind regards
Andreas.
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* Santiago Vila ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050720 12:45]:
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Andreas Barth wrote:
>
> > * Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050720 00:26]:
> > > Le mardi 19 juillet 2005 à 11:46 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit :
> > > > Why are changes made by one particular derived debian distribution s
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 12:33:02PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> well, but these patches should go into the debian BTS then. I agree with
> Joey here that showing "oh, there is a ubuntu-patch" is not the most
> appropriate thing.
i tend to disagree. the BTS is for bugs, should they have patches or
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050720 00:26]:
> > Le mardi 19 juillet 2005 à 11:46 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit :
> > > Why are changes made by one particular derived debian distribution so
> > > important that they should be singled out by the PTS?
* Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050720 00:26]:
> Le mardi 19 juillet 2005 à 11:46 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit :
> > Why are changes made by one particular derived debian distribution so
> > important that they should be singled out by the PTS?
> Because they're doing a good job and because t
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