Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

2005-07-19 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 00:44 +0200, Raphaël Hertzog wrote: > Le mardi 19 juillet 2005 à 21:07 +0100, Scott James Remnant a écrit : > > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 17:44 +0200, Raphaël Hertzog wrote: > > > > > Scott, can you generate (regularly) a simple list of available Ubuntu > > > patches ? The PTS w

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

2005-07-19 Thread Raphaël Hertzog
Le mardi 19 juillet 2005 à 21:07 +0100, Scott James Remnant a écrit : > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 17:44 +0200, Raphaël Hertzog wrote: > > > Scott, can you generate (regularly) a simple list of available Ubuntu > > patches ? The PTS would download that file and add the URLs somewhere > > appropriate if

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

2005-07-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le mardi 19 juillet 2005 à 11:46 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit : > Why are changes made by one particular derived debian distribution so > important that they should be singled out by the PTS? Because they're doing a good job and because those changes are done by DD ... and because the interest of bot

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

2005-07-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le mardi 19 juillet 2005 à 11:15 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit : > Please don't do that. Ubuntu's 1.5 mb patch for base-config is > thuroughly useless (as I've mentioned before) and if the PTS starts > nagging me about it, I'll have to stop using the PTS. Agreed, that's why it's better to simply provid

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

2005-07-19 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 17:44 +0200, Raphaël Hertzog wrote: > Scott, can you generate (regularly) a simple list of available Ubuntu > patches ? The PTS would download that file and add the URLs somewhere > appropriate if possible. > http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/patches/PATCHES It's of the forma

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

2005-07-19 Thread Joey Hess
Why are changes made by one particular derived debian distribution so important that they should be singled out by the PTS? Wouldn't it be more useful if the PTS highlighted patches that are actually of interest by those of our users who care enough about working with Debian to file patches in the

Debian QA Meeting in Darmstadt, Germany

2005-07-19 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Dear QA-interested, as you might have noticed, the Debian QA-group[1] is now maintaining around 265 packages accumulating arround 633 bugs. That's far too much. Therefore a Debian-QA-MiniConf will be organized at the Technical University of Darmstadt[2] from the 9th to the 11th of September.

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

2005-07-19 Thread Joey Hess
Raphaël Hertzog wrote: > I'd like to add the integration of patches in the TODO list (much like Please don't do that. Ubuntu's 1.5 mb patch for base-config is thuroughly useless (as I've mentioned before) and if the PTS starts nagging me about it, I'll have to stop using the PTS. -- see shy jo

Achats en Chine - Cours

2005-07-19 Thread gest . appr
Achats Internationaux en Chine / Taiwan Objectifs : Le marché chinois comprend un pays communiste mais en transition vers une économie de marché et deux régions administratives HONG KONG et MACAU dont l’administration publique respecte certains droits démocratiques. La République Populaire de

Re: Idea for maintaining packages up for adoption

2005-07-19 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 01:52:07PM +0200, Benjamin BAYART wrote: No. They would submit patches, or via the bug tracking system, or via an rcs. The main difference is the result produced: - with the bug tracking system, you have a patch which sleeps there for years, waiting for someone to care

Re: Idea for maintaining packages up for adoption

2005-07-19 Thread Benjamin BAYART
Le Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 05:41:01AM -0400, Michael Stone: > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 10:34:05AM +0200, Benjamin BAYART wrote: > >If a package is orphaned in Debian, but still have users and people > >willing to maintain the software, this proposition can help. > > I'm still just not getting it.

Re: Idea for maintaining packages up for adoption

2005-07-19 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 09:14:19AM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote: This proposal aims to fill the blank in such situations. What blank? I checked--there are *no* patches in the BTS for dvidvi. Maybe if there were some patches out there and the argument was about making the process easier or somesu

Re: Idea for maintaining packages up for adoption

2005-07-19 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 10:34:05AM +0200, Benjamin BAYART wrote: If a package is orphaned in Debian, but still have users and people willing to maintain the software, this proposition can help. I'm still just not getting it. So you've got an external developer community that will be active in

Re: Idea for maintaining packages up for adoption

2005-07-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le mardi 19 juillet 2005 à 10:34 +0200, Benjamin BAYART a écrit : > > and I can't see how the proposal will add anything that > > can't already be done if you have active users & developers. > > The main difference is between having developpers and having > Debian-developpers. When you say a packa

Re: Idea for maintaining packages up for adoption

2005-07-19 Thread Benjamin BAYART
> and I can't see how the proposal will add anything that > can't already be done if you have active users & developers. The main difference is between having developpers and having Debian-developpers. When you say a package is orphaned this is a Debian status, which might not be that right in the

Re: Idea for maintaining packages up for adoption

2005-07-19 Thread Alexis Sukrieh
* Michael Stone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) disait : > IMO, we lose far more points when people install packages which are in > bad shape but haven't been removed because they don't have enough users > to notice & file RC bugs. Yes, I agree, but you are speaking about pure orphaned packages, I mean, pack