On 11/22/05, M.-A. Lemburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually loading the module then requires decompressing
> the code which takes a whole lot longer than just reading
> a file from the file system.
>
> In summary, things get slower when importing from ZIP files;
> it really only makes sense fo
On 11/23/05, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 11:53 AM 11/23/2005 +1100, David Arnold wrote:
> >-->"Phillip" == Phillip J Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > Phillip> This is a major advantage over developers who do not do this,
> > Phillip> not only in developer effectivness,
On 11/23/05, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 04:53 PM 11/23/2005 +0000, Paul Moore wrote:
> >If there was a way of building a Windows installer that installed
> >packages in "egg" form, so I didn't have to use setup.py at all when
> >inst
On 11/23/05, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually, I think the better long-term approach is more likely to be tools
> like easy_deb that wrap easy_install. "Better" here meaning that it can
> save the system packager work, because it can handle finding and fetching
> and building i
On 11/25/05, Donovan Baarda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On thing about this worried me;
>
> If TurboGears depends on an "egg'ed" ElementTree, what happens if a
> system has ElementTree installed as a non-egg package? Does installing
> TurboGears as an egg inside a Debian package require also insta
On 11/25/05, Vincenzo Di Massa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > To me, this sucks. Sorry, Philip, I know *why* you can't introspect a
> > non-egg ElementTree well enough to avoid this, but it still sucks.
>
> Please read
> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2005-November/005520.html
> htt
On 11/25/05, Donovan Baarda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry... that's what I meant; don't deb an egg... install it as an egg,
> outside of the Debian package management system. As an egg, it is under
> development and not ready for release as a deb. When the software is
> ready for release, stri
On 11/25/05, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 11:34 AM 11/25/2005 +0000, Paul Moore wrote:
> >- what would happen if I downloaded the TurboGears egg and just put it
> >on sys.path - no easy_install or whatever?)
>
> You could import stuff from it, but
On 11/25/05, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 10:28 AM 11/25/2005 -0500, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
> >Actually, I'm increasingly tempted to PEP the idea of a
> >name-version.pkg-info file being installed alongside the code as a standard
> >Python distutils feature. This discussion has ma
On 12/15/05, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For persons like Paul Moore who want to wrap egg-based packages in Windows
> installers, note that you can now take a setuptools-based package's source
> and run "setup.py bdist_wininst" and it will build a usa
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