Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick

2015-10-02 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Piotr Ożarowski, 2015-10-02] > * adding a package to the team (and getting all benefits, like > sponsoring, bug fixes, etc.) requires pushing at least one commit to > package without member's name in debian/control a month > (doesn't matter if it's a typo fix, RC bug fix or a tag which can >

Re: I've been removed from the Python team

2015-10-02 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 1 octobre 2015 18:48 -0400, Scott Kitterman  : > For the git migration, the people taking the time to do the work or pay > attention to the work and provide feedback are driving what happens > when. It's not possible to give feedback or help when we don't know anything about the migration.

Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick

2015-10-02 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 2 octobre 2015 09:41 +0200, Piotr Ożarowski  : > * removal¹ of packages (not person) from the team if there's no > contribution in 3 months in a row and no other team wants to take over > given package 3 months is quite short. I have packages that don't get updates that often. This should

Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick

2015-10-02 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Vincent Bernat, 2015-10-02] > ❦ 2 octobre 2015 09:41 +0200, Piotr Ożarowski  : > > > * removal¹ of packages (not person) from the team if there's no > > contribution in 3 months in a row and no other team wants to take over ^ + member >

Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick

2015-10-02 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 2 octobre 2015 10:30 +0200, Piotr Ożarowski  : >> ❦ 2 octobre 2015 09:41 +0200, Piotr Ożarowski  : >> >> > * removal¹ of packages (not person) from the team if there's no >> > contribution in 3 months in a row and no other team wants to take over >> > given package >> >> 3 months is qu

Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick

2015-10-02 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
On 2015-10-02 at 10:19:10 +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: > ❦ 2 octobre 2015 09:41 +0200, Piotr Ożarowski  : > > * removal¹ of packages (not person) from the team if there's no > > contribution in 3 months in a row and no other team wants to take over > > given package > 3 months is quite short.

Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick

2015-10-02 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Vincent Bernat, 2015-10-02] > OK, I understand. I always add myself as uploader before making a > non-trivial change (to be able to receive bug reports outside the team > mailing list). I understand it will be accounted for a contribution in > this case, right? right. The easiest contribution wou

Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick

2015-10-02 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Elena ``of Valhalla'', 2015-10-02] > +1: I also have packages that get new upstream releases very rarely (<1 > per year): they are not dead, just very stable and with limited scope, > so there is no need to work often on them. well, then you will not gain much from maintaining this package withi

get started with building own packages

2015-10-02 Thread Cornelius Kölbel
Hi, I would like to see the python based software "privacyIDEA" http://privacyidea.org (2-factor-authentication) in Debian. And I am willing to put some effort into it - since I am the author ;-) It is written in flask and requires additional packages, which are not available in Jessie, yet: * p

Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick

2015-10-02 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Piotr Ożarowski, 2015-10-02] > * removal¹ of packages (not person) from the team if there's no > contribution in 3 months in a row and no other team wants to take over > given package or a warning after month of inactivity and team removal from all packages if number_of_commits_in_a_year / 12

Re: get started with building own packages

2015-10-02 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Fri, Oct 02, 2015 at 12:54:47PM +0200, Cornelius Kölbel wrote: > It is written in flask and requires additional packages, which are not > available in Jessie, yet: > > * python-flask-cache > * python-pymysql This one exists in sid (and in jessie-backports). > * python-pyjwt This one exists even

Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick

2015-10-02 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
On 2015-10-02 at 11:28:04 +0200, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > [Elena ``of Valhalla'', 2015-10-02] > > +1: I also have packages that get new upstream releases very rarely (<1 > > per year): they are not dead, just very stable and with limited scope, > > so there is no need to work often on them. > well

Re: RFS updating the setuptools-scm and mistune packages

2015-10-02 Thread Tristan Seligmann
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 at 13:55 Julien Puydt wrote: > ssh://git.debian.org/git/python-modules/packages/mistune.git > ssh://git.debian.org/git/python-modules/packages/setuptools-scm.git > Uploaded.

Re: get started with building own packages

2015-10-02 Thread Cornelius Kölbel
Am Freitag, den 02.10.2015, 16:15 +0500 schrieb Andrey Rahmatullin: > On Fri, Oct 02, 2015 at 12:54:47PM +0200, Cornelius Kölbel wrote: > > It is written in flask and requires additional packages, which are not > > available in Jessie, yet: > > > > * python-flask-cache > > * python-pymysql > This

Re: RFS updating the setuptools-scm and mistune packages

2015-10-02 Thread Julien Puydt
Le vendredi 02 oct. 2015 à 11:23:57 (+), Tristan Seligmann a écrit : > On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 at 13:55 Julien Puydt wrote: > > > ssh://git.debian.org/git/python-modules/packages/mistune.git > > ssh://git.debian.org/git/python-modules/packages/setuptools-scm.git > > > > Uploaded. Thanks! Snark

Re: I've been removed from the Python team

2015-10-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On October 2, 2015 4:14:19 AM EDT, Vincent Bernat wrote: >❦ 1 octobre 2015 18:48 -0400, Scott Kitterman  : > >> For the git migration, the people taking the time to do the work or >pay >> attention to the work and provide feedback are driving what happens >> when. > >It's not possible to giv

Re: I've been removed from the Python team

2015-10-02 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Scott Kitterman, 2015-10-02] > There's a wiki page somewhere as well. main Python page (https://wiki.debian.org/Python) points to https://wiki.debian.org/Python/GitPackaging -- Piotr Ożarowski Debian GNU/Linux Developer www.ozarowski.pl www.griffith.cc

Re: get started with building own packages

2015-10-02 Thread Cornelius Kölbel
Am Freitag, den 02.10.2015, 16:02 +0200 schrieb Paul Wise: > On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Cornelius Kölbel wrote: > > > At the moment I have a package > > > > privacyidea-apache2 and privacyidea-nginx, > > which both require python-privacyidea, the webserver, database... > > An alternative mig

Re: get started with building own packages

2015-10-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Cornelius Kölbel wrote: > At the moment I have a package > > privacyidea-apache2 and privacyidea-nginx, > which both require python-privacyidea, the webserver, database... An alternative might be to depend on httpd, dbcommon-config and then on package install, dete

Git migration schedule

2015-10-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
I know there's been a lot of questions about the schedule for the git migration. Right now, Stefano is at PyconZA, so he hasn't had much time to follow up here. But he and I discussed a schedule for the migration, and we're sharing it now both so you know what's going on and so we have to stick t

Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick

2015-10-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 02, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: >well, then you will not gain much from maintaining this package within a >team It's not just the maintainer that wins by maintaining the package within the team. The team also wins because it is now empowered to fix problems when the need ari

Re: get started with building own packages

2015-10-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Cornelius Kölbel wrote: > Ah, so apache2 and nginx provide httpd. I was not aware of this. Yes, along with a lot of other web servers. You could also just depend on apache2 | nginx since there is no way to generate configuration for all web servers and you probably

Re: get started with building own packages

2015-10-02 Thread Cornelius Kölbel
Am Freitag, den 02.10.2015, 16:39 +0200 schrieb Paul Wise: > On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Cornelius Kölbel wrote: > > > Ah, so apache2 and nginx provide httpd. I was not aware of this. > > Yes, along with a lot of other web servers. You could also just depend > on apache2 | nginx since there i

Re: Searching for a roundup sponsor

2015-10-02 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Oct 01 2015, "Kai Storbeck" wrote: > Hi, > > Roundup 1.4.20-1.1 is still the version in stable. Roundup 1.5 was > released a few years back, and I need someone to help me with the > final stages in getting 1.5 in stretch, or getting it removed. > > > Roundup is a python web application with qui

Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick

2015-10-02 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Oct 02 2015, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > I think that the main problem of our team is that we have over 300 > members and only few people contribute to packages they didn't inject to > the repo (some people do not care even about those). I always assumed that it was generally preferred to have Py

Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick

2015-10-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, October 02, 2015 09:12:44 AM Nikolaus Rath wrote: > On Oct 02 2015, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > > I think that the main problem of our team is that we have over 300 > > members and only few people contribute to packages they didn't inject to > > the repo (some people do not care even about

Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick

2015-10-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, October 02, 2015 01:18:00 AM Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > I think that the main problem of our team is that we have over 300 > members and only few people contribute to packages they didn't inject to > the repo (some people do not care even about those). I think this is in part because we h

Re: Git migration schedule

2015-10-02 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > 5-Oct - Do one last test run with an updated svn dump. Put the results in a > public place for folks to play with and comment on. > > 8-Oct - Assuming no objections or showstoppers, turn off write access to all > of DPMT svn. those are not ma

Re: Git migration schedule

2015-10-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 02, 2015, at 09:46 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote: >those are not many days to review the results of the conversions: can >you (or Stefano) share what were the problems that delayed the >transition, so that we can check in particular those aspects of the >packages we know the most? Stefano has put

Re: [DPMT] radical changes: automation, carrot and stick

2015-10-02 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 10/02/2015 01:18 AM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > I think that the main problem of our team is that we have over 300 > members and only few people contribute to packages they didn't inject to > the repo (some people do not care even about those). Impressive that you write this after kicking me for