Re: please test the numpy package

2009-02-06 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 05:57, Ondrej Certik wrote: > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote: >> Ondrej Certik (05/02/2009): >>> Ok. But we are wasting people's time. I just got another email from a >>> Ubuntu user that he will rather consider compiling it for Ubuntu's PPA >>> hims

Re: Frozen unstable (was: please test the numpy package)

2009-02-05 Thread Michael Hanke
On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 07:50:36AM +0100, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 07:24:47AM +0100, Michael Hanke wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 05:17:11PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > > Ondrej Certik writes: > > > > > I am unhappy that unstable gets frozen for such a long time, but I

Re: Frozen unstable (was: please test the numpy package)

2009-02-05 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 07:24:47AM +0100, Michael Hanke wrote: > On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 05:17:11PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > Ondrej Certik writes: > > > I am unhappy that unstable gets frozen for such a long time, but I > > > understand that with the current setup (e.g. unstable, testing, ..)

Re: Frozen unstable (was: please test the numpy package)

2009-02-05 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Ben Finney (06/02/2009): > I'm unhappy about it too, but I don't understand it. Where can I find > an explanation for the necessity of freezing ‘unstable’ when preparing > to release ‘testing’? For more than verbose explanations, see -devel@ a few weeks ago, starting at <200812160703.00258.russ..

Re: Frozen unstable (was: please test the numpy package)

2009-02-05 Thread Michael Hanke
On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 05:17:11PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > Ondrej Certik writes: > > > I am unhappy that unstable gets frozen for such a long time, but I > > understand that with the current setup (e.g. unstable, testing, ..), > > there is probably no other way. > > I'm unhappy about it too,

Frozen unstable (was: please test the numpy package)

2009-02-05 Thread Ben Finney
Ondrej Certik writes: > I am unhappy that unstable gets frozen for such a long time, but I > understand that with the current setup (e.g. unstable, testing, ..), > there is probably no other way. I'm unhappy about it too, but I don't understand it. Where can I find an explanation for the necessi

Re: please test the numpy package

2009-02-05 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Ondrej Certik (05/02/2009): >> Ok. But we are wasting people's time. I just got another email from a >> Ubuntu user that he will rather consider compiling it for Ubuntu's PPA >> himself, because he cannot use debian experimental. Of course.

Re: please test the numpy package

2009-02-05 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Ondrej Certik (05/02/2009): > Ok. But we are wasting people's time. I just got another email from a > Ubuntu user that he will rather consider compiling it for Ubuntu's PPA > himself, because he cannot use debian experimental. Of course. > > So he needs to invest his time in the package, I need t

Re: please test the numpy package

2009-02-05 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Sandro Tosi wrote: > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 17:21, Ondrej Certik wrote: >> 3) upload to experimental >> 3a) keep the sphinx docs (sphinx is in experimental) > > I'd recommends this. Ok. But we are wasting people's time. I just got another email from a Ubuntu user

Re: please test the numpy package

2009-02-05 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 17:21, Ondrej Certik wrote: > 3) upload to experimental > 3a) keep the sphinx docs (sphinx is in experimental) I'd recommends this. Cheers, -- Sandro Tosi (aka morph, morpheus, matrixhasu) My website: http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/ Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org

Re: please test the numpy package

2009-02-05 Thread Ondrej Certik
>> > hence no reason to allow for a transition to testing. Moreover, I >> > promise that pymvpa will not attempt such thing ;-) >> >> What about Sphinx 0.4.3? Does it mean we will not try to unblock it? > > Sphinx 0.4.3 is the classic example: It causes more trouble than it > fixed. For example try

Sphinx (was: Re: please test the numpy package)

2009-01-26 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Michael Hanke, 2009-01-26] > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:47:02AM +0100, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > > What about Sphinx 0.4.3? Does it mean we will not try to unblock it? > > Sphinx 0.4.3 is the classic example: It causes more trouble than it > fixed. For example try building pymvpa's docs with it --

Re: please test the numpy package

2009-01-26 Thread Michael Hanke
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:47:02AM +0100, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > [Michael Hanke, 2009-01-26] > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 08:15:47AM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > > > * Michael Hanke [Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:37:13 +0100]: > > > > I'd be curious to know which/how many packages in lenny actually > > > >

Re: please test the numpy package

2009-01-26 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Michael Hanke, 2009-01-26] > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 08:15:47AM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > > * Michael Hanke [Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:37:13 +0100]: > > > I'd be curious to know which/how many packages in lenny actually > > > build-depend on sphinx. Does anyone know a way to quickly determine > > >

Re: please test the numpy package

2009-01-26 Thread Michael Hanke
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 08:15:47AM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Michael Hanke [Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:37:13 +0100]: > > > I'd be curious to know which/how many packages in lenny actually > > build-depend on sphinx. Does anyone know a way to quickly determine > > that -- it might provide some facts

Re: please test the numpy package

2009-01-25 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Michael Hanke [Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:37:13 +0100]: > I'd be curious to know which/how many packages in lenny actually > build-depend on sphinx. Does anyone know a way to quickly determine > that -- it might provide some facts about the situation we are > speculating about. % zcat /org/ftp.debian.

Re: please test the numpy package

2009-01-25 Thread Michael Hanke
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:47:06PM +0100, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > [Michael Hanke, 2009-01-25] > > To me the question is: Why is sphinx 0.5 in experimental not unstable? > > This issue does not only affect numpy, as sphinx 0.4.3 has some problems > > which prevent successful building of docs (e.g.

Re: unstable semi-frozen (was: please test the numpy package)

2009-01-25 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > [Ondrej Certik, 2009-01-25] >> I really want it in unstable. > > I want unstable not to be affected by testing freeze as well, but that's > all what I will say in this topic before Lenny's release. > > For now, if we want to give maintainer

Re: please test the numpy package

2009-01-25 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Ondrej Certik, 2009-01-25] > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > > if you will help me convince release managers to unblock it, I will > > upload 0.5 to unstable (if Mikhail will not protest). > > So release managers are blocking any uploads of sphinx to unstable? no - *I'

Re: please test the numpy package

2009-01-25 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > [Michael Hanke, 2009-01-25] >> To me the question is: Why is sphinx 0.5 in experimental not unstable? >> This issue does not only affect numpy, as sphinx 0.4.3 has some problems >> which prevent successful building of docs (e.g. image/figur

Re: please test the numpy package

2009-01-25 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Michael Hanke, 2009-01-25] > To me the question is: Why is sphinx 0.5 in experimental not unstable? > This issue does not only affect numpy, as sphinx 0.4.3 has some problems > which prevent successful building of docs (e.g. image/figure handling > bug) -- and at least this one is solved in 0.5.

Re: unstable semi-frozen (was: please test the numpy package)

2009-01-25 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Ondrej Certik, 2009-01-25] > I really want it in unstable. I want unstable not to be affected by testing freeze as well, but that's all what I will say in this topic before Lenny's release. For now, if we want to give maintainers, whose packages are depending on our packages, a possibility to te

Re: please test the numpy package

2009-01-25 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > Hi, > > Ondrej Certik wrote: >> I really want it in unstable. It's because the new scipy won't build >> without this upload etc. and many people are just waiting for it. It's >> a legitimate question though, but so far I understood that this

Re: please test the numpy package

2009-01-25 Thread Michael Hanke
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:36:09AM -0800, Ondrej Certik wrote: > Hi Piotr, Kumar and Matthias, > > thanks for all the replies, I'll reply one by one: > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > > [Ondrej Certik, 2009-01-25] > >> There is a problem with documentation, that it de

Re: please test the numpy package

2009-01-25 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Ondrej Certik wrote: > I really want it in unstable. It's because the new scipy won't build > without this upload etc. and many people are just waiting for it. It's > a legitimate question though, but so far I understood that this is > what unstable is for. Otherwise people will have to move from u

Re: please test the numpy package

2009-01-25 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Hi, Ondrej Certik wrote: > I really want it in unstable. It's because the new scipy won't build > without this upload etc. and many people are just waiting for it. It's > a legitimate question though, but so far I understood that this is > what unstable is for. Otherwise people will have to move f

Re: please test the numpy package

2009-01-25 Thread Ondrej Certik
Hi Piotr, Kumar and Matthias, thanks for all the replies, I'll reply one by one: On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > [Ondrej Certik, 2009-01-25] >> There is a problem with documentation, that it depends on sphinx-0.5, >> which is currently only in experimental. And also ups

Re: please test the numpy package

2009-01-25 Thread Matthias Klose
Ondrej Certik schrieb: > Hi, > > I finally packaged the newest uptream and committed all fixes into our > svn repo for numpy. Kumar (or others), do you think you could please > test the package? numpy becomes big. see https://launchpad.net/bugs/309215. In the past the parts depending on external

Re: please test the numpy package

2009-01-25 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 12:53:05AM -0800, Ondrej Certik wrote: > Hi, > > I finally packaged the newest uptream and committed all fixes into our > svn repo for numpy. Kumar (or others), do you think you could please > test the package? > There is a problem with documentation, that it depends on sph

Re: please test the numpy package

2009-01-25 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Ondrej Certik, 2009-01-25] > There is a problem with documentation, that it depends on sphinx-0.5, > which is currently only in experimental. And also upstream doesn't > have it in the tarball. I originally fixed that by > adding a new target into debian/rules, that downloaded the upstream > tgz,

please test the numpy package

2009-01-25 Thread Ondrej Certik
Hi, I finally packaged the newest uptream and committed all fixes into our svn repo for numpy. Kumar (or others), do you think you could please test the package? There is a problem with documentation, that it depends on sphinx-0.5, which is currently only in experimental. And also upstream doesn't