Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-29 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:27 PM, W. Martin Borgert wrote: >> >> Then we should also patch "trac-admin deploy" command so that it >> create symlinks to static resources instead of copies to update user >> environments to latest jQuery automaically. > > I don't remember, I ever used "trac-admin depl

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-28 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting "anatoly techtonik" : Then we should also patch "trac-admin deploy" command so that it create symlinks to static resources instead of copies to update user environments to latest jQuery automaically. I don't remember, I ever used "trac-admin deploy", and I wonder how useful it is. It sa

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-27 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:29 AM, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > Quoting "anatoly techtonik" : >> >> Then why can't you wait until upstream developers, whose product >> bundles that library, confirm, validate, test and release fix for that >> error in their source package together with release announce

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-27 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting "anatoly techtonik" : Is it possible to create symlink on a symlink? (I am on windows right now - can't test) Yes. That's true. Trac was designed to work even without JavaScript, but Trac plugins are written by community and people often assume that jQuery is available. That's why t

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-27 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting "anatoly techtonik" : Then why can't you wait until upstream developers, whose product bundles that library, confirm, validate, test and release fix for that error in their source package together with release announcement? Also in the case of Trac/jQuery. Again, many applications have

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-27 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sun, 2009-27-12 at 22:13 +0200, anatoly techtonik wrote: > Is it possible to create symlink on a symlink? yes > (I am on windows right now - can't test) -- --gh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-27 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 6:56 PM, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > >> 2. Thing to consider. When you create Environment and "deploy" it with >> trac-admin (to generate fastcgi/mod_wsgi scripts) - copies of static >> resources for web-server, including JavaScript won't be updated when >> you fix your secu

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-27 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 6:24 PM, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > > It would be helpful, if you could state the exact problems you > had because of the newer jQuery. Not 100% sure it was only jQuery (can't test this right now) but, for example, I could not drill down beneath the first level in template

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-27 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
anatoly techtonik wrote: > Upstream Trac is shipped with jQuery it needs while leaving Genshi and > other libraries as dependencies. Debian specific patch removes jQuery > from Trac distribution even though it contributes only 2% to package > size. It's not about package size, it's about security

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-27 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting "anatoly techtonik" : 1. Trac is not a package - it's an application. Inside of Debian, applications, libraries, and many other things come as "package" as we call it. In Debian, trac is a package. If there will be a problem in one of the files that shipped with Trac sources - it is a

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-27 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting "anatoly techtonik" : If you see jquery.js file inside of its source package - why not to leave it alone - where is the Policy that requires to replace it with some external copy? In general, Debian puts a lot of work into finding and removing embedded code copies. Sometimes, this is no

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-27 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > >> Upstream Trac is shipped with jQuery it needs while leaving Genshi and >> other libraries as dependencies. Debian specific patch removes jQuery >> from Trac distribution even though it contributes only 2% to package >> size. This dependency in

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-27 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 6:01 PM, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > >> I don't feel like I >> want to check if they are compatible next time I'd like to use one. >> 15kBytes doesn't worth wasted hours. > > The issue is not 15 kB, but the problems Debian would have if an > error must be fixed in jQuery (e.

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-26 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting "anatoly techtonik" : There are more than 200 plugins tagged for 0.11 on http://trac-hacks.org/ They were developed and debugged with jQuery 1.2.x which is not forward compatible with 1.3.x Most Trac plugins do not use JavaScript, even less use jQuery. I don't feel like I want to chec

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 7:23 PM, anatoly techtonik wrote: > Upstream Trac is shipped with jQuery it needs while leaving Genshi and > other libraries as dependencies. Debian specific patch removes jQuery > from Trac distribution even though it contributes only 2% to package > size. This dependency

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-26 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 3:56 AM, Paul Wise wrote: > >> Trac 0.11 ships with jQuery 1.2.6 >> However, Debian patches remove this file in favor of libjs-jquery >> package which contains version 1.3.x >> This breaks plugins for Trac 0.11 that rely on 1.2.x jQuery features >> removed in 1.3.x >> >> Ho

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-25 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting "anatoly techtonik" : Trac 0.11 ships with jQuery 1.2.6 However, Debian patches remove this file in favor of libjs-jquery package which contains version 1.3.x This breaks plugins for Trac 0.11 that rely on 1.2.x jQuery features removed in 1.3.x How to properly add dependency for jQuery<1

Re: jQuery dependency for Trac 0.11 should be < 1.3

2009-12-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 7:06 AM, anatoly techtonik wrote: > Trac 0.11 ships with jQuery 1.2.6 > However, Debian patches remove this file in favor of libjs-jquery > package which contains version 1.3.x > This breaks plugins for Trac 0.11 that rely on 1.2.x jQuery features > removed in 1.3.x > > Ho