Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-10-13 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 04:29, Matthias Klose wrote: > Colin Watson writes: > > On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 07:28:23PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > > > Colin Watson writes: > > > > For what it's worth, I think a python-defaults source package or some > > > > such would help: at the moment there are sev

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-10-13 Thread Matthias Klose
Colin Watson writes: > On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 07:28:23PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > > Colin Watson writes: > > > For what it's worth, I think a python-defaults source package or some > > > such would help: at the moment there are several packages needlessly > > > stalled on python2.3, even tho

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-10-13 Thread Matthias Klose
Colin Watson writes: > > The only reason to put a version on a "pythonX.Y" dependency would be if > > you know there was a particular version of pythonX.Y that your package > > doesn't work with. > > The versioned dependency is probably generated automatically by > dpkg-shlibdeps: > > $ cat /va

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-10-13 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 07:28:23PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > Colin Watson writes: > > For what it's worth, I think a python-defaults source package or some > > such would help: at the moment there are several packages needlessly > > stalled on python2.3, even though their dependencies are simp

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-10-13 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 10:55:54AM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: > On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 03:28, Matthias Klose wrote: > > It does help for python applications, which depend on an explicit > > python version. I did not count packages with a 'python2.3 (>= 2.3)' > > dependency. > > I would argue that

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-10-08 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 03:28, Matthias Klose wrote: > Colin Watson writes: > > On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 11:40:50AM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: [...] > It does help for python applications, which depend on an explicit > python version. I did not count packages with a 'python2.3 (>= 2.3)' > dependency

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-10-07 Thread Matthias Klose
Colin Watson writes: > On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 11:40:50AM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: > > On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 02:55, Matthias Klose wrote: > > > Donovan Baarda writes: > > > > The second problem is is when we get python (2.4), a new python2.3 > > > > package will need to be released just to fix

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-10-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 11:40:50AM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: > On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 02:55, Matthias Klose wrote: > > Donovan Baarda writes: > > > The second problem is is when we get python (2.4), a new python2.3 > > > package will need to be released just to fix the dependencies. The > > > Pyt

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-10-04 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 02:55, Matthias Klose wrote: > Donovan Baarda writes: > > On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 02:28:52PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > > > Hi, Colin Watson wrote: [...] > > The second problem is is when we get python (2.4), a new python2.3 > > package will need to be released just to f

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-10-04 Thread Matthias Klose
Donovan Baarda writes: > On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 02:28:52PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > > Hi, Colin Watson wrote: > > > > > Incidentally, I think that python2.3 should definitely depend on python, > > > even if unversioned. This is what python2.2 in testing does, and it > > > would avoid the

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-10-04 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 02:28:52PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, Colin Watson wrote: > > > Incidentally, I think that python2.3 should definitely depend on python, > > even if unversioned. This is what python2.2 in testing does, and it > > would avoid the "I installed python2.3 but my progr

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-10-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 04:02:50PM +1000, Peter HAWKINS wrote: > I'm the maintainer (just returning from an extended unexpected > vacation). > The problem is this (from the buildd log): > Build-Depends: debhelper (>> 3.0.0), debconf, python2.2-dev (>= 2.2.3), > python2.3-dev, apache2, apache2-d

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-10-01 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Colin Watson wrote: > Incidentally, I think that python2.3 should definitely depend on python, > even if unversioned. This is what python2.2 in testing does, and it > would avoid the "I installed python2.3 but my programs that use > /usr/bin/python still don't work!" FAQ. So include a "Recomm

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-10-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 12:25:29PM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: > On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 06:50, Matthias Klose wrote: > > Colin Watson writes: > > > While this would probably help users, it won't make the transition > > > easier as far as testing is concerned, because python comes from the > > > pyt

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-10-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 10:48:11PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > Colin Watson writes: > > Buggy packages > > == > > gnue-* is missing here. No; gnue-common in testing depended on python2.1, not python. The version in unstable should certainly be fixed, but it's not holding up testing

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-10-01 Thread Peter HAWKINS
Hi... On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 10:53:13PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 10:47:09PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > > > Missing builds > > > == > > > > * libapache2-mod-python: powerpc > > > already asked for rebuild ... no reaction. > > I could take a look a

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-09-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 10:47:09PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > > Missing builds > > == > > * libapache2-mod-python: powerpc > already asked for rebuild ... no reaction. I could take a look at this in the next day or two, if no one else bites. -- Steve Langasek postmodern progr

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-09-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 02:02:38PM +1000, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-09-29 22:47]: > > but one of it's build-dep's is listed as: > > -gimp1.2 (1.2.3-2.4 to -) > > * Maintainer: Ben Gertzfield > > * Valid candidate > > so probably, it doesn't make

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-09-30 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 10:47:09PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > > * gimp-python: #207304 > > automake problem, which it seems I failed to fix. > > but one of it's build-dep's is listed as: > > -gimp1.2 (1.2.3-2.4 to -) > > * Maintainer: Ben Gertzfield > * Valid candidate > > so p

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-09-29 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-09-29 22:47]: > but one of it's build-dep's is listed as: > -gimp1.2 (1.2.3-2.4 to -) > * Maintainer: Ben Gertzfield > * Valid candidate > so probably, it doesn't make sense to move it to testing, if gimp1.2 > is removed. Actually, gimp1.2 still

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-09-29 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 06:50, Matthias Klose wrote: > Colin Watson writes: > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 11:29:12PM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: > > > what about python2.3 having "Depends: python (>= 2.3)" > > > > > > This is IMHO a policy violation. python (2.3) should depend on python2.3, > > > pyt

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-09-29 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * python-gnome2: s390 Due to #212854 on gnome-vfs2 ... I'll probably NMU gnome-vfs2 soon if Takuo KITAME doesn't fix it. Cheers, Sebastien Bacher

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-09-29 Thread Matthias Klose
Colin Watson writes: > On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 11:29:12PM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: > > what about python2.3 having "Depends: python (>= 2.3)" > > > > This is IMHO a policy violation. python (2.3) should depend on python2.3, > > python2.3 should not depend on python. > > > > It's playing havoc

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-09-29 Thread Matthias Klose
Colin Watson writes: > (cc'ed to -release for general information) > > Hi folks, > > Here's a summary of the problems currently blocking python2.3 from > testing. It may be slightly incomplete, but I think I've got most of > them. fyi, yesterday I updated the list from Joss, see http://people.de

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-09-29 Thread Matthias Klose
Colin Watson writes: > Buggy packages > == gnue-* is missing here.

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-09-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 03:21:42PM -, Alastair wrote: > From: Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Missing builds > > == > > > > * newt: hppa > > Is this an error /out of date? From the archive, > it appears that hppa is up-to-date on newt for > both sarge and sid. Slightly out

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-09-29 Thread Alastair
- Original Message From: Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-python@lists.debian.org Cc: debian-release@lists.debian.org Subject: Summary of python transition problems Date: 29/09/03 10:49 Hi, > > (cc'ed to -release for general information) > > Hi folks, > > Here's a sum

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-09-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 11:29:12PM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: > what about python2.3 having "Depends: python (>= 2.3)" > > This is IMHO a policy violation. python (2.3) should depend on python2.3, > python2.3 should not depend on python. > > It's playing havoc with my mixed testing/unstable sys

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-09-29 Thread Rick Pasotto
'gramps' showed in my list of held-back programs today. It is held back because it depends on python2.3-xmlbase. When I try to install python2.3-xmlbase, apt-get tells me: Note, selecting python2.3 instead of python2.3-xmlbase python2.3 is already the newest version. -- "Be regular and orderly

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-09-29 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-09-29 11:49]: > Buggy packages > == > > * garchiver: #210828 I requested its removal a while ago (#212383). -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-09-29 Thread Donovan Baarda
> (cc'ed to -release for general information) > > Hi folks, > > Here's a summary of the problems currently blocking python2.3 from > testing. It may be slightly incomplete, but I think I've got most of > them. > > > Buggy packages > == [...] what about python2.3 having "Depends: pytho

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-09-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 12:16:37PM +0100, Mikhail Sobolev wrote: > is libmetakit-python missing from this list for a reason? It depends on python2.2, which isn't a problem as far as testing's concerned. Packages depending on 'python (>= 2.2), python (<< 2.3)' are problematic. -- Colin Watson

Re: Summary of python transition problems

2003-09-29 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 11:49:03AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: [ a list of packages skipped ] is libmetakit-python missing from this list for a reason? -- Misha pgpJaTCkadaOr.pgp Description: PGP signature