[Barry Warsaw, 2013-07-25]
> On Jul 25, 2013, at 12:09 AM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
> >and you want to force an administrator who has a service using Python 2.X
> >with lots of scripts with /usr/bin/python shebang to do additional work?
>
> Of course not. I'm not proposing that that administrators
On 25 July 2013 11:09, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> Alright, I obviously haven't convinced anybody, so I'll drop it. We'll let
> the PEP 394 bug reports speak for themselves . But the responses I've
> read so far make me think I probably wasn't clear in what I am proposing.
>
> On Jul 25, 2013, at 12:0
On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 07:09:26 PM Barry Warsaw wrote:
> Alright, I obviously haven't convinced anybody, so I'll drop it. We'll let
> the PEP 394 bug reports speak for themselves . But the responses I've
> read so far make me think I probably wasn't clear in what I am proposing.
> On Jul 25,
On 25 July 2013 07:52, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
> When my co-worker (who doesn't use Debian on his desktop/laptop
> machines) asked me if Debian will change the /usr/bin/python symlink
> anytime soon and I told him "over my (or python2.X's) dead body", he
> responded with: "that's why I use Debian
Alright, I obviously haven't convinced anybody, so I'll drop it. We'll let
the PEP 394 bug reports speak for themselves . But the responses I've
read so far make me think I probably wasn't clear in what I am proposing.
On Jul 25, 2013, at 12:09 AM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
>and you want to force
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 02:04:17PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On Jul 24, 2013, at 01:32 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> >Jakub Wilk wrote:
> >>* Barry Warsaw , 2013-07-24, 12:38:
> >>>In any case, it's come up that PEP 394 recommends distros start
> >>>adopting shebang lines that state /usr/bin/p
[Barry Warsaw, 2013-07-24]
> I think it's low risk, and probably an easy change, but I agree that *right
> now* it's probably low value. Maybe a useful way to think about it is in the
> context of future Debian releases.
We will not support python2.X sometime in the future. Upstream will
not supp
[Barry Warsaw, 2013-07-24]
> Can you or Jakub elaborate on *why* you think it's a bad idea?
because our users trust us.
They have their own scripts and they don't want to be forced to do
unnecessary work, nobody wants. Using /usr/bin/python2 in Debian
packages sends a wrong message to them.
When
On Jul 24, 2013, at 02:14 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>Don't we have more important things to worry about? It only matters at all if
>one is contemplating switching the /usr/bin/python symlink to python3. We
>aren't, so let's not change something just to change it.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it
Barry Warsaw wrote:
>On Jul 24, 2013, at 01:32 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>
>>Jakub Wilk wrote:
>>>* Barry Warsaw , 2013-07-24, 12:38:
In any case, it's come up that PEP 394 recommends distros start
adopting shebang lines that state /usr/bin/python2 in their scripts,
>
and I don't
On Jul 24, 2013, at 01:32 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>Jakub Wilk wrote:
>>* Barry Warsaw , 2013-07-24, 12:38:
>>>In any case, it's come up that PEP 394 recommends distros start
>>>adopting shebang lines that state /usr/bin/python2 in their scripts,
>>>and I don't think we do this yet. We shoul
Jakub Wilk wrote:
>* Barry Warsaw , 2013-07-24, 12:38:
>>In any case, it's come up that PEP 394 recommends distros start
>>adopting shebang lines that state /usr/bin/python2 in their scripts,
>>and I don't think we do this yet. We should!
>
>We absolutely should not.
Definitely not. The ent
* Barry Warsaw , 2013-07-24, 12:38:
In any case, it's come up that PEP 394 recommends distros start
adopting shebang lines that state /usr/bin/python2 in their scripts,
and I don't think we do this yet. We should!
We absolutely should not.
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On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:38:58PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> Over in python-dev, there's a discussion started about PEP 394
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2013-July/127516.html
> and what /usr/bin/python points to by default in Fedora.
See also
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