Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started

2024-12-20 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 03:22:57AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 12:53:42PM +, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 01:58:14AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > > [...] > > > * spyder: #1088068/#1089054. > > > > I'm struggling with this one; I've asked at > > h

Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started

2024-12-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 01:58:14AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > While there are a few bits of that transition tracker still red, the > current target is to work on the list of autopkgtest failures shown on > https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/python3-defaults in order to get the > addition of 3.13 as a

Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started

2024-12-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 12:53:42PM +, Julian Gilbey wrote: > On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 01:58:14AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > [...] > > * spyder: #1088068/#1089054. > > I'm struggling with this one; I've asked at > https://github.com/spyder-ide/spyder/issues/23074 > for help, but nothing so

Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started

2024-12-17 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 01:58:14AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > [...] > * spyder: #1088068/#1089054. I'm struggling with this one; I've asked at https://github.com/spyder-ide/spyder/issues/23074 for help, but nothing so far. I've just pushed my current work to salsa (g...@salsa.debian.org:scienc

Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started

2024-12-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 10:29:06AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > python3-defaults in unstable now adds Python 3.13 as a supported Python 3.13 > version. You might see some additional build failures, until the binNMUs > for this addition are done [1]. This might take some days for some > architect

Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started

2024-11-18 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/13/24 15:44, Stefano Rivera wrote: Hi buhtz (2024.11.13_12:06:33_+) This was discussed at the Python BoF at DebConf in ROK earlier this year. OK, nice to know that there was a discussion before. Did I missed the announcement of the results of this discussion in this mailing list? T

Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started

2024-11-13 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi debian-python (2024.11.13_15:01:31_+) > Hi PICCA (2024.11.13_10:04:26_+) > > I am a bit worrying for the scientific stack , will we have enough > > time to work with our upstream in order to fix all these FTBFS. In the > > scientific stack, things are going slowly > > The reality he

Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started

2024-11-13 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi PICCA (2024.11.13_10:04:26_+) > I am a bit worrying for the scientific stack , will we have enough > time to work with our upstream in order to fix all these FTBFS. In the > scientific stack, things are going slowly The reality here is that Python has a 6-month release cycle, these days

Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started

2024-11-13 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi buhtz (2024.11.13_12:06:33_+) > > This was discussed at the Python BoF at DebConf in ROK earlier this > > year. > > OK, nice to know that there was a discussion before. Did I missed the > announcement of the results of this discussion in this mailing list? The BoF was mentioned on the list

Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started

2024-11-13 Thread buhtz
Hello Jonathan, thank you for the reply. Am 13.11.2024 12:15 schrieb Jonathan Carter: This was discussed at the Python BoF at DebConf in ROK earlier this year. OK, nice to know that there was a discussion before. Did I missed the announcement of the results of this discussion in this mailing

Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started

2024-11-13 Thread Matthias Klose
python3-defaults in unstable now adds Python 3.13 as a supported Python 3.13 version. You might see some additional build failures, until the binNMUs for this addition are done [1]. This might take some days for some architectures. We will most likely also see some more issues once the lower

Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started

2024-11-13 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi On 2024/11/13 12:43, c.bu...@posteo.jp wrote: This is not how I do experience Debian at all. This is not "rock solid". Python 3.13 is very fresh, no one needs it yet. I see no problem introducing it with Debian 14 in 2027. For my project it does not matter directly. I do support 3.13. But

Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started

2024-11-13 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 11:46:21AM +0100, PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel wrote: > > this is the same as we did for the Python 3.12 transition. Please note > > that we don't enable any of the experimental features in Python 3.12 (no > > GIL, JIT compilation), so assuming there are currently no other RC >

Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started

2024-11-13 Thread PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel
> this is the same as we did for the Python 3.12 transition. Please note > that we don't enable any of the experimental features in Python 3.12 (no > GIL, JIT compilation), so assuming there are currently no other RC > issues in your packages, there should plenty of time to fix any 3.13 > related

Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started

2024-11-13 Thread c . buhtz
Hello, I am an upstream maintainer and ask just because I want to learn. It was a similar case before the Debian 12 release introducing Python 3.12 near to the freeze. Why are fresh Python releases introduced so early and near to the next Debian release? This is not how I do experience Debia

Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started

2024-11-13 Thread Matthias Klose
On 13.11.24 11:04, PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel wrote: do we know how long we will have to fix all the FTBFS and autopkgtest before the freeze ? no. the freeze date is not yet announced. I am a bit worrying for the scientific stack , will we have enough time to work with our upstream in order to

Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started

2024-11-13 Thread PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel
do we know how long we will have to fix all the FTBFS and autopkgtest before the freeze ? I am a bit worrying for the scientific stack , will we have enough time to work with our upstream in order to fix all these FTBFS. In the scientific stack, things are going slowly We are not 100% of o