On Monday, September 16, 2013 23:23:30 Kerrick Staley wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Scott Kitterman
wrote:
> > OK. I think that convinces me it's widely enough spread we ought to fix
> > this for Wheezy. I'll take it up with the release managers as it's their
> > decision, not mine.
On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> OK. I think that convinces me it's widely enough spread we ought to fix this
> for Wheezy. I'll take it up with the release managers as it's their
> decision, not mine.
Bug filed: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=723182
On Sep 16, 2013, at 10:16 AM, anatoly techtonik wrote:
>As a Python developer I couldn't care less for the "default Python"
>stuff as long as my scripts use proper shebang. python for 2/3
>compatible stuff, python2 for 2.x only and python3 where needed.
If you're distributing software intended to
On Sep 15, 2013, at 06:05 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
>And *once that happens*, we can discuss resurrecting /usr/bin/python and
>pointing it to python3. It should not change until then.
Python 2.7 will have an upstream lifetime of many years even from now. The
current thinking (I wouldn't even ca
On Sep 15, 2013, at 01:24 PM, anatoly techtonik wrote:
>I mean that generally it is hard to say what problems people face when
>trying to make the code running on both Python 3 and Python 2. My own
>experience shows that testing both is very burdensome no matter if you
>port app or start from scra
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 09:53:41PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
>> Lachlan writes:
>
>> > i'm not an expert by any means but i fail to see how this is an issue?
>
>> In short: Debian is not the only Unix-like system where Python is
>> installed
On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Lachlan wrote:
> i'm not an expert by any means but i fail to see how this is an issue?
>
> -Everyone wrote scripts for python 2.x using /usr/bin/python
> -With python3, scripts were written specifically for python3 using
> /usr/bin/python3
>
> When Debian eventual
On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 09:53:41PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
> Lachlan writes:
> > i'm not an expert by any means but i fail to see how this is an issue?
> In short: Debian is not the only Unix-like system where Python is
> installed, and consistency across operating systems is valuable.
Yes, it
On Sunday, September 15, 2013 14:34:27 Scott Kitterman wrote:
> Kerrick Staley wrote:
> >Scott, I booted up a CentOS 6.4 VM, and the symlink is there (runs
> >python2.6). I'd be interested to know if there are any other systems
> >where
> >it's unavailable though.
>
> OK. I think that convinces m
Kerrick Staley wrote:
>Scott, I booted up a CentOS 6.4 VM, and the symlink is there (runs
>python2.6). I'd be interested to know if there are any other systems
>where
>it's unavailable though.
OK. I think that convinces me it's widely enough spread we ought to fix this
for Wheezy. I'll take i
Scott, I booted up a CentOS 6.4 VM, and the symlink is there (runs
python2.6). I'd be interested to know if there are any other systems where
it's unavailable though.
- Kerrick
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>
>
> Kerrick Staley wrote:
> >What's not included in "some n
On 15 September 2013 07:53, Ben Finney wrote:
> Lachlan writes:
> Not all of them, and the expectation is that more and more systems will
> assume “/usr/bin/python” is the current version of Python.
I haven't seen any evidence that anyone except Arch has any intention
to do that.
Jeremy
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Lachlan writes:
> i'm not an expert by any means but i fail to see how this is an issue?
In short: Debian is not the only Unix-like system where Python is
installed, and consistency across operating systems is valuable.
> -Everyone wrote scripts for python 2.x using /usr/bin/python
And eventua
i'm not an expert by any means but i fail to see how this is an issue?
-Everyone wrote scripts for python 2.x using /usr/bin/python
-With python3, scripts were written specifically for python3 using
/usr/bin/python3
When Debian eventually changes to python3 by default all the scripts will
be writ
On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 1:24 PM, anatoly techtonik wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 12:55 PM, anatoly techtonik
> wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Scott Kitterman
>> wrote:
>>> The only suggestion I can make is that it's generally not that hard for new
>>> code to make it work for b
On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 12:55 PM, anatoly techtonik wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> The only suggestion I can make is that it's generally not that hard for new
>> code to make it work for both python2.7 and python3.3.
>
> I do not agree.
I mean that generally
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> The only suggestion I can make is that it's generally not that hard for new
> code to make it work for both python2.7 and python3.3.
I do not agree.
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Kerrick Staley wrote:
>What's not included in "some newer releases" here? /usr/bin/python2 has
>been present on all systems I've used except Debian.
>
>- Kerrick
It looks to me like the latest Centos ships with python2.6 and /usr/bin/python2
only shipped with 2.7.
Scott K
>
>On Sat, Sep 14
What's not included in "some newer releases" here? /usr/bin/python2 has
been present on all systems I've used except Debian.
- Kerrick
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>
>
> Kerrick Staley wrote:
> >Thanks!
> >
> >The upstream recommendation (from PEP 394 [1]) is that, g
Kerrick Staley wrote:
>Thanks!
>
>The upstream recommendation (from PEP 394 [1]) is that, going forward,
>portable scripts *can't* assume python is python2, and *should* use
>python2.
>
>- Kerrick
>
>[1] http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/
I'm very familiar with it.
Now we get to Arch is
Thanks!
The upstream recommendation (from PEP 394 [1]) is that, going forward,
portable scripts *can't* assume python is python2, and *should* use
python2.
- Kerrick
[1] http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/
Kerrick Staley wrote:
>Please install /usr/bin/python2 as part of the default Debian install.
>It
>still doesn't exist on 7.1, which prevents scripts with a shebang of
>#!/usr/bin/python2 from running.
>
>Note that the following matters (which have derailed previous threa
Please install /usr/bin/python2 as part of the default Debian install. It
still doesn't exist on 7.1, which prevents scripts with a shebang of
#!/usr/bin/python2 from running.
Note that the following matters (which have derailed previous threads on
this topic) are irrelevant to this re
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