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ntains of waste is not more |
`\ landfill sites but fewer shopping centres.” —Clive Hamilton, |
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Matthias Klose writes:
> On 24.01.19 00:16, Ben Finney wrote:
> > What command, hopefully as simple as ‘py3versions --installed’, can
> > be used in AutoPkgTest to interrogate *only* those Python versions
> > on the local machine that have their standard library installed?
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mistakes is not only most honorable but |
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e. So
there is no default.
I hope that helps clarify the issue.
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Joseph Herlant writes:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2018, 10:01 PM Ben Finney wrote:
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> > Joseph, do you mean simply replacing the article content with a “now
> > the policy is in the packaging manuals” external link?
>
> Yes, that's what I meant, sorry for the
replacing the article content with a “now the
policy is in the packaging manuals” external link?
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ey had no way to indicate successful |
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ckage
maintainer of the Debian package for the Python library?
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mation that we can find |
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dare not, are slaves." —“Lord” George |
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ter than implicit.
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et able to re-engineer |
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d The Brain_ |
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Diane Trout writes:
> On Tue, 2017-08-08 at 13:24 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
> >
> > Those people, not party [to] this conversation, have reasonable
> > expectation that such breakage will not happen without very good
> > reason.
> > Good reason would entail
entation giving bad advice.
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up until I laid it down I |
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Barry Warsaw writes:
> On Aug 7, 2017, at 18:28, Ben Finney wrote:
>
> > That day [when we know that the vast majority of scripts in the wild
> > no longer expect Python 2 when invoking the ‘python’ command] might
> > never come, in which case the ‘python’ command will f
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ke steps to make the same
command invoke *incompatible* programs depending on the time and host.
(good sigmonster; have a cookie.)
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ations and ages it is the rule.” —Friedrich Nietzsche |
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yes. They had little |
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elief manifestly inconsistent |
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age” process.
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ly the earliest flyswatters were nothing more than some |
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e obvious norm?
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backports: I remain open to
considering a pull request from any published Git repo at your choice of
host.
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fully cleared up some
incorrect assumptions? I hope so.
If you'd like to discuss on OFTC my nick is ‘bignose’.
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ead you point to, I don't see anything to support
that.
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Control: reassign -1 dput
Control: found -1 dput/0.10.3
Control: found -1 dput/0.11.0
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On 17-Dec-2016, Ben Finney wrote:
> On 15-Dec-2016, Matthias Klose wrote:
> > In the past we needed that [split into ‘python-pkg-resources’ and
> > ‘python-setuptools’ bina
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Barry Warsaw writes:
> On Nov 02, 2016, at 01:57 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
>
> >Certainly the command ‘python3’ should only ever point to the Python
> >3 interpreter.
> >
> >If upstream ever releases a “Python 4” but expects the interpreter
> >for that to als
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ent behaviour from building that package?
How am I meant to tell ‘dh_python2’ to replace the ‘${python:Depends}’
with what the upstream Setuptools script declares are its dependencies?
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Piotr Ożarowski writes:
> [Ben Finney, 2016-10-15]
> > How can I convince ‘dh-python’ to derive package dependencies from the
> > Setuptools ‘install_requires’ declaration?
>
> by dh-python you mean dh_python3, right?
In this case, ‘dh_python2’. Would you expect that to b
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circumstances we still need ‘foo-dbg’
packages.
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r it.” —Oscar Wilde, _De |
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dule names to test.
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ur Python
skills :-)
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failure |
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;s |
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with a single command, and all
output is captured for later inspect. This is why it's important to use
Sbuild or something equivalent.
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Barry Warsaw writes:
> On Jun 23, 2016, at 11:17 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
>
> >There isn't, AFAIK, anything portable that I can write in the shebang
> >to turn a command invocation of ‘./foo/bar.py’ into ‘python3 -m
> >foo.bar’.
>
> Why not just have a file that
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Barry Warsaw writes:
> On Jun 22, 2016, at 11:25 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
>
> >There is a compounding tendency to disparage ‘python3 ./foo/bar.py’,
> >[…]. I wish this trend could be effectively reversed, because IMO
> >this is a serious impediment to considering Python a go
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it down, it's not worth |
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e ignorant.” —Shaun Mason |
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test our ideas.… But |
`\ until we do, until we have data, it is just one more proposal.” |
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ce
distribution is for people who want to build from source. Those are
always distinct use cases.
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Piotr Ożarowski writes:
> [Ben Finney, 2016-04-13]
> > One complication may have been that the directory name to which the
> > library was installed (with the “--install-lib” option) does not
> > contain the Debian package name.
>
> […] By changing --install-l
Piotr Ożarowski writes:
> [Ben Finney, 2016-04-12]
> > * Pybuild runs the upstream test suite
> > * which imports the Python packages
> > * which creates the compiled bytecode files
> > * which remain in the package directories
> > * which are scooped up by Pyb
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stinct release
schedule and versions, yes there should be separate Debian packages for
that.
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Brian May writes:
> Ben Finney writes:
>
> > As another check, you can test the resulting URL with a ‘git clone’ to a
> > temporary target directory.
>
> It doesn't seem to like me today:
Alioth is not responding at all, for me at the momen
Brian May writes:
> Ben Finney writes:
>
> > The “git:” URL method is not encrypted. You should specify the encrypted
> > “https:” method in the “VCS-Git” field
>
> So just to double check, this should solve that right?
>
> sed 's=git://anonscm.debian.
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ty of those who are having a better |
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ay to make this a more automated part of the Debian
Python package build workflow?
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Scott Kitterman writes:
> On Tuesday, February 02, 2016 06:44:57 AM Ben Finney wrote:
> > Ben Finney writes:
> > > * Address all the language around Python 2 versus Python 3 versus
> > > Python general, and re-order or re-word to focus *primarily* on
> > > Py
Ben Finney writes:
> * Address all the language around Python 2 versus Python 3 versus
> Python general, and re-order or re-word to focus *primarily* on Python
> 3, with Python 2 treated as the still-supported legacy system.
>
> I'm maintaining a Bazaar branch for this,
Scott Kitterman writes:
> On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 04:46:19 PM Ben Finney wrote:
> ...
> > Once these non-semantic changes are accepted I will begin work on
> > the second stage of semantic changes.
> ...
>
> OK. Those are all accepted.
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Dmitry Shachnev writes:
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 04:46:19PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
> > I'm planning to provide changes in two bundles:
> >
> > * Go through the whole document and tidy it up for consistency,
> > source style, markup, and language style.
Ben Finney writes:
> I'm planning to provide changes in two bundles:
>
> * Go through the whole document and tidy it up for consistency, source
> style, markup, and language style. This should not change the meaning
> of anything, but will change the wording of numerou
Ben Finney writes:
> Scott Kitterman writes:
>
> > At this point I think internal consistency is probably more
> > important, so if someone wants to go through and make all the
> > python's that should be python2, etc then please send in a patch.
>
> I'l
Scott Kitterman writes:
> On Sunday, January 24, 2016 04:58:26 PM Ben Finney wrote:
> > Found it; the source document is ‘python-policy.sgml’ in the source
> > VCS for ‘python3’. Currently that's a Bazaar repository at
> > .
>
> That's correct.
Hmm, apparent
Ben Finney writes:
> Where is the Git (I assume?) repository you're using for VCS of this
> policy document?
Found it; the source document is ‘python-policy.sgml’ in the source VCS
for ‘python3’. Currently that's a Bazaar repository at
.
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