Re: PyCon 2013 -- tentative title/abstract/outline -- feedback plz - v.2

2012-09-28 Thread Éric Araujo
> PEP390 That one is retired. setup.cfg is defined by documentation, not a PEP. Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50661617.40...@netwok.org

Re: PyCon 2013 -- tentative title/description/abstract -- v.3 (submitted)

2012-09-28 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Thanks everyone who helped with the submission! Just for the reference -- here is the submitted version ( I believe it will be possible to change it later on as well ): Submitted by Yaroslav Halchenko Category Packaging # I guess it was the closest to "distribution" Audience Level

Re: PyCon 2013 -- tentative title/abstract/outline -- feedback plz - v.2

2012-09-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 28, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: >I just vaguely remember that there were problems in some projects relying on >__file__ (some times opportunistically with os.path.realpath) to deduce the >path to other components of the project, which might had been symlinked >elsewhere ;-)

Re: PyCon 2013 -- tentative title/abstract/outline -- feedback plz - v.2

2012-09-28 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
> >I could start with this one of cause ;) but I hope they all know about > >it by now. On a related note though: __file__ -- are we all friends > >again ? ;) > Not sure what you mean about enmity with __file__, but note that as of the > acceptance of PEP 420 (namespace packages), in Python 3.3

Re: PyCon 2013 -- tentative title/abstract/outline -- feedback plz - v.2

2012-09-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 28, 2012, at 09:04 AM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: >> PEP396, > >Status: Draft >Barry, was there any progress? Nope. For whatever reason (maybe not enough controversy), there have been no discussions on this in ages. I really should try to resurrect it. >I could start with this one of ca

Re: PyCon 2013 -- tentative title/abstract/outline -- feedback plz

2012-09-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sep 28, 2012, at 09:47 AM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: >^^ this is a great idea. It'd be nice if we could prototype a flake8 / >pyflakes run against the archive, and filter for serious errors First, we need to get tools like pyflakes ported to Python 3. It's rather crazy that pyflakes will compla

Re: PyCon 2013 -- tentative title/abstract/outline -- feedback plz

2012-09-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, September 28, 2012 09:53:42 AM Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Paul Wise wrote: > > > ^^ this is a great idea. It'd be nice if we could prototype a flake8 / > > > pyflakes run against the archive, and filter for serious errors > > > > We did do that at one point with py

Re: PyCon 2013 -- tentative title/abstract/outline -- feedback plz

2012-09-28 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Paul Wise wrote: > > ^^ this is a great idea. It'd be nice if we could prototype a flake8 / > > pyflakes run against the archive, and filter for serious errors > We did do that at one point with pyflakes: > http://qa.debian.org/daca/pyflakes/sid/ > Unfortunately no-one has bee

Re: PyCon 2013 -- tentative title/abstract/outline -- feedback plz

2012-09-28 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > > The Python conference scene seems to love testing, so if you can make a > > case > > for Debian and quality assurance, and Debian has done things popular with > > this crowd for years like automated builds and the use of very strict > > package

Re: PyCon 2013 -- tentative title/abstract/outline -- feedback plz

2012-09-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > ^^ this is a great idea. It'd be nice if we could prototype a flake8 / > pyflakes run against the archive, and filter for serious errors We did do that at one point with pyflakes: http://qa.debian.org/daca/pyflakes/sid/ Unfortunately no

Re: PyCon 2013 -- tentative title/abstract/outline -- feedback plz

2012-09-28 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 01:01:18AM +0200, Paul Boddie wrote: > On Friday 28 September 2012 00:23:10 Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > > Thank you Paul ;-) > > > > Good comments -- once again, arguments seems to be oriented mostly > > toward developers... I guess I should explicitly guide the > > abstrac

Re: PyCon 2013 -- tentative title/abstract/outline -- feedback plz - v.2

2012-09-28 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > no, but please make sure to bind a key that (when pressed) shows a > screen with these PEP numbers... and hit it every time you do a short > break to catch a breath or drink water ;) ;) I do bind keys to important slides in impressive... now I will ha

Re: PyCon 2013 -- tentative title/abstract/outline -- feedback plz - v.2

2012-09-28 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Yaroslav Halchenko, 2012-09-28] > On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > > about conventions... please, please, please mention > > with pleasure ... but do you think it is worth listing (some of) them in > the abstract? no, but please make sure to bind a key that (when pressed) shows a s

Re: PyCon 2013 -- tentative title/abstract/outline -- feedback plz - v.2

2012-09-28 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Thanks Piotr! On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > [Yaroslav Halchenko, 2012-09-28] > > In this talk I would like to briefly present the history of Python in > > Debian (which can be traced to nineties with Python 1.4), outline > > benefits Debian provides for Python users/developers and

Re: PyCon 2013 -- tentative title/abstract/outline -- feedback plz - v.2

2012-09-28 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Yaroslav Halchenko, 2012-09-28] > In this talk I would like to briefly present the history of Python in > Debian (which can be traced to nineties with Python 1.4), outline > benefits Debian provides for Python users/developers and present what > to expect in upcoming stable (wheezy) release of Deb