Re: Request to join python-modules team

2006-06-13 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Simon McVittie wrote: > Hi, > I'd like to join the python-modules team, in order to co-maintain > python-docutils with Martin F. Krafft. My Alioth login is smcv-guest. Welcome to the group! You have been added, you will have commit rights tomorrow. Cheers, -- Raphaël He

Re: New python distutils class

2006-06-13 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Marc Dequènes wrote: > > - Perhaps in keeping with the style of cdbs, it would be better to have > > two classes python-pycentral and python-pysupport (and some > > python-common or python-core) behind it? This would also avoid the > > tacky use of -ng in the class name. :-

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 08:38:57PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > the Python team has agreed on a new policy [1]. As we want to do the > python 2.4 transition now, we need to make sure the packages match the > policy. This will limit the amount of broken packages when python2.4 will > become the d

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 09:13:26PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > PS: Anyways, there's one package you didn't list because it's in NEW, > which WON'T be merged as required by the new policy: python2.x-xpcom, > provided by xulrunner. > The reason is simple: different installations for different python

Re: Bug#370833: New dh_python proposal

2006-06-13 Thread Matthias Klose
Joey Hess writes: > I don't particularly mind that you've chosen to NMU debhelper. However, > I can't guarantee that I will preserve the interfaces that you've added > to dh_python in a backwards compatible way when I get around to looking > at it. > > (FWIW, I began ignoring this issue when the p

Request to join python-modules team

2006-06-13 Thread Simon McVittie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'd like to join the python-modules team, in order to co-maintain python-docutils with Martin F. Krafft. My Alioth login is smcv-guest. I'm currently preparing an upload which will fix some of the old bugs and use the new Python policy. Thanks,

Re: New python distutils class

2006-06-13 Thread Duck
Coin, Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > - Perhaps in keeping with the style of cdbs, it would be better to have > two classes python-pycentral and python-pysupport (and some > python-common or python-core) behind it? This would also avoid the > tacky use of -ng in the class name

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Matthias Klose
Mike Hommey writes: > On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 09:55:08PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > When you install some python extensions (.so), it is common that they come > > with > > associated .py files (modules). Those .py files usually are the same in > > /usr/lib/python2.3

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Matthias Klose
Graham Wilson writes: > On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 11:22:27PM +0200, Piotr Ozarowski wrote: > > Graham Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > Speaking of this, I have a module (python-pyx) that I think is only used > > > by end-users (not applications), so I think it makes sense to only > > > install modul

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Piotr Ozarowski
Graham Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 11:22:27PM +0200, Piotr Ozarowski wrote: > > What if default python version will change? You will have to reupload > > your package. > > That would happen anyway for new Python releases, plus, my understanding > is that with the new Pyth

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 13 juin 2006 à 16:31 -0500, Graham Wilson a écrit : > That would happen anyway for new Python releases, plus, my understanding > is that with the new Python framework in place, supporting new Python > versions can be handled simply by bin NMUs in the case that I can't make > an upload myse

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Graham Wilson
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 11:22:27PM +0200, Piotr Ozarowski wrote: > Graham Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Speaking of this, I have a module (python-pyx) that I think is only used > > by end-users (not applications), so I think it makes sense to only > > install modules and extensions for the curren

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Piotr Ozarowski
Graham Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Speaking of this, I have a module (python-pyx) that I think is only used > by end-users (not applications), so I think it makes sense to only > install modules and extensions for the current version. Does this make > sense? What if default python version will c

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Graham Wilson
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 09:55:08PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > OK, then indicate "current" in XS-Python-Version and support only the > current version in python-xpcom (make sure to generate the provides > field). Speaking of this, I have a module (python-pyx) that I think is only used by end-u

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Tue, 2006-06-13 at 22:05 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 09:55:08PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > When you install some python extensions (.so), it is common that they come > > with > > associated .py files (modules). Those .py files usually are th

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 09:55:08PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When you install some python extensions (.so), it is common that they come > with > associated .py files (modules). Those .py files usually are the same in > /usr/lib/python2.3 and /usr/lib/python2.4, that's w

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Mike Hommey wrote: > > So please check in the list at the end of this mail if you're concerned, > > and if yes, please update your packages following these instructions: > > http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPython/NewPolicy > > http://people.debian.org/~piman/python-policy/ > > Ma

Re: Bug#370833: New dh_python proposal

2006-06-13 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 13 juin 2006 à 15:23 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit : > (FWIW, I began ignoring this issue when the politics and constant > advocacy and pressure became too annoying to bother with, and I expect > to ignore it for at least another couple of weeks. Unfortunatly that > means that to avoid either t

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Andreas Barth
* Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060613 21:29]: > PPS: I'll take care of libxml2 and libxslt as soon as I understand what > I'm supposed to change. Please don't upload libxml2 until the current version either hits testing or is RC-buggy. Thanks. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andrea

Re: Coordinated effort to update python packages

2006-06-13 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 08:38:57PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > the Python team has agreed on a new policy [1]. As we want to do the > python 2.4 transition now, we need to make sure the packages match the > policy. This will limit the amount of broken packages w

Re: Bug#370833: New dh_python proposal

2006-06-13 Thread Joey Hess
I don't particularly mind that you've chosen to NMU debhelper. However, I can't guarantee that I will preserve the interfaces that you've added to dh_python in a backwards compatible way when I get around to looking at it. (FWIW, I began ignoring this issue when the politics and constant advocacy

Re: Instructions to update a package for the new python policy

2006-06-13 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hi, > > I've prepared this: > http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPython/NewPolicy > > Feel free to enhance. > > I also converted python-pam as an example (std debhelper package): > http://people.debian.org/~hertzog/python/examples/ > > I'll gladly put oth

Re: Instructions to update a package for the new python policy

2006-06-13 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Now it's time to ask all maintainers to update their packages. Someone > should prepare several list of source packages: > - python extensions > - python modules only > - python apps > > Then we need to fill bugs, and usertag them "policy-ext", "policy

Re: installing modules and extensions in packages (python sense) in separate directories

2006-06-13 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 10 juin 2006 à 16:24 +0200, Matthias Klose a écrit : > As pointed out in [1], the split of a package (in the python sense) > with extensions and modules into two different directories leads to > a changed import order and should be avoided. I.e. this kind of > package must be installed in

Re: New python distutils class

2006-06-13 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > - The appearance of the DEB_PYTHON_PRIVATE_MODULES_DIRS variable seems > to be unrelated to this change. I don't doubt it might be useful, but > I just want to be sure where it's coming from. Well, it's kind of unrelated since the old dh_python can