Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-20 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 02:05:40PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 03:34:58PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > > > If we followed the same method for python-base, then we would > > > > > > a) instroduce python-base iff we had some package(s) written in python >

Re: python-sqlobject v0.7 package?

2006-01-20 Thread Ramon Bastiaans
Cool, great. Thanks for the reply and I'll await it's release. ;) Fabio Tranchitella wrote: Il giorno ven, 20/01/2006 alle 18.10 +0100, Ramon Bastiaans ha scritto: Hi all, I was wondering on the status of a version 0.7 package for python-sqlobject. It's current package is still at version

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-20 Thread Joey Hess
Kevin Mark wrote: > Giving away code (GPL or otherwise) to the world is done for many > reasons. Aparently some folks are more concerned about how their work > is used. As with the attribution in .debs, folks want the users to not > associate possible (as judged by them) 'bad'/'unofficial'/'off >

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-20 Thread Joey Hess
Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 03:34:58PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > > If we followed the same method for python-base, then we would > > > > a) instroduce python-base iff we had some package(s) written in python > >that we wanted in the base system (apt-listchanges comes to min

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-20 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 09:40:55AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > I asked this question earlier, and no one answered. Are there .config > scripts being written in python today in Ubuntu? (Hmm, where are the python > bindings for debconf, and what ensures that they're installed?) No, not yet. Th

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-20 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 09:52:09AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 09:40:55AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > I asked this question earlier, and no one answered. Are there .config > > scripts being written in python today in Ubuntu? (Hmm, where are the python > > bindings

Re: python-sqlobject v0.7 package?

2006-01-20 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Il giorno ven, 20/01/2006 alle 18.10 +0100, Ramon Bastiaans ha scritto: > Hi all, > > I was wondering on the status of a version 0.7 package for python-sqlobject. > It's current package is still at version 0.6, while version 0.7 has been > released in October 2005. > > It seems the package maint

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-20 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 09:22:53AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 10:38:08PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Ok, but now I'm confused: why is python-minimal needed in Essential? > > Why not simply depend on it straightforwardly? > Because there are parts of the packag

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-20 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 10:38:08PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Ok, but now I'm confused: why is python-minimal needed in Essential? > Why not simply depend on it straightforwardly? Because there are parts of the packaging system where there is no way to express such a dependency relationsh

python-sqlobject v0.7 package?

2006-01-20 Thread Ramon Bastiaans
Hi all, I was wondering on the status of a version 0.7 package for python-sqlobject. It's current package is still at version 0.6, while version 0.7 has been released in October 2005. It seems the package maintainer has been notified of the new version in November 2005 through the bug report

Re: python packaging infrastructure

2006-01-20 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 10:47:19AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > Steve Langasek writes: > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 01:06:39PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > > > the design decision of putting the binary-all python packages in a > > > separate directory into /var/lib/python2.x/site-packages has s

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-20 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 05:58:20PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: > For what it's worth, we've caught hell from the ruby community for > breaking the standard library in to its component parts and not > installing it all by default. This problem has been largely abrogated > as of late, but I'd rather

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-20 Thread Matthias Klose
Joey Hess writes: > Colin Watson wrote: > > FWIW the relevant design docs from when this was done in Ubuntu are > > here: > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EssentialPython (requirements) > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PythonInEssential (details) > > > > The rationale for the set of included module

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-20 Thread Matthias Klose
Joe Wreschnig writes: > On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 12:12 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > I don't know what's actually in (or more importantly not in) > > python2.4-minimal though. > > I'm eyeballing right now. Things that jump out at me: > * No character encoding, translation, or locale handling. > *

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-20 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 05:58:20PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: > On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 01:47:18PM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 09:23:30PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > > > * Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-01-1

Re: python packaging infrastructure

2006-01-20 Thread Matthias Klose
Steve Langasek writes: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 01:06:39PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > > Josselin Mouette writes: > > > Le lundi 16 janvier 2006 à 15:24 +0100, Matthias Klose a écrit : > > > > This is the right direction, and adding support for extensions makes > > > > this complete. Does your