Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-18 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 12:12:07PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > * allowing us to easily use python (as well as C, C++ and perl) for programs > in the base system > > * allowing us to provide python early on installs to make users happier Please note that it is against upstream's explicit

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-18 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 12:12 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > debian-python Cc'ed > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 07:02:32PM -0600, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > > > This is something that Python upstream explicitly does not want; the only > > > reason for creating python-minimal was so that it could be Essentia

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-18 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 08:16:32PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 12:12:07PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > Some reasons: > > > * compatability with Ubuntu -- so that packages can be easily ported back > > and forth between us and them; I expect most of the work ubun

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-18 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 12:12:07PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > debian-python Cc'ed > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 07:02:32PM -0600, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > > > This is something that Python upstream explicitly does not want; the only > > > reason for creating python-minimal was so that it could be E

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-18 Thread Anthony Towns
debian-python Cc'ed On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 07:02:32PM -0600, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > > This is something that Python upstream explicitly does not want; the only > > reason for creating python-minimal was so that it could be Essential: yes, > > not to support stripped-down Python installations. > S

Re: python packaging infrastructure

2006-01-18 Thread Matthias Klose
Josselin Mouette writes: > Le mercredi 18 janvier 2006 à 13:06 +0100, Matthias Klose a écrit : > As I already explained on IRC, dh_python will not hand .py files to > python-support in architecture-dependent packages containing a .so > module. This is unnecessary and would bring issues like this on

Re: python packaging infrastructure

2006-01-18 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 18 janvier 2006 à 13:06 +0100, Matthias Klose a écrit : > the design decision of putting the binary-all python packages in a > separate directory into /var/lib/python2.x/site-packages has some > problems when supporting packages with extensions (a proposal beeing > made on #irc was to k

Re: python packaging infrastructure

2006-01-18 Thread Matthias Klose
Josselin Mouette writes: > Le lundi 16 janvier 2006 à 15:24 +0100, Matthias Klose a écrit : > > This is the right direction, and adding support for extensions makes > > this complete. Does your proposal allow rebuilding these packages > > without actually changing anything (except the changelog). >