Re: Sven Luther, report of the mediation attempt and further actions

2007-01-03 Thread Sven Luther
/debian-kernel/2007/01/msg00042.html I have indeed. > On Tue, Jan 02, 2007 at 09:30:01AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 02, 2007 at 05:47:36PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 05:38:19PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > > >

Re: Sven Luther, report of the mediation attempt and further actions

2007-01-03 Thread Sven Luther
h. > On Wednesday 03 January 2007 09:42, Sven Luther wrote: > > And Frans doesn't read private ? Well, to bad for him, you did manage > > to read the sentence where i wrote "I ask the permission to take Frans > > email public", right ? Since he is the only one

Re: Sven Luther, report of the mediation attempt and further actions

2007-01-03 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 10:36:43PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 09:42:17AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > Oh well, i guess it is ok for me to reply to a few points on this. > > No, Sven, it is not okay to say "I agreed instead to a self-imposed >

Re: Bits from the DPL: DSA and buildds and DAM, oh my!

2007-03-12 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 01:09:12AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > So, basically my question remains: why does it have to be so incredibly > difficult to allow new members into these teams? As opposed to joining the d-i team for example ? Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Testing kernel version

2007-03-14 Thread Sven Luther
20 based monolithic d-i, which i can make available to you, no idea what processor is on your board though. I uploaded it to : http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i-2.6.20-amd64_i386.iso (well, currently uploading, wait a couple of minutes before grabbing it). Friendly, Sven Luther -- To

Re: When a discussion goes bad...

2007-03-15 Thread Sven Luther
ng on fixing my > mistakes, which made me loose my temper and yell. For the remains of the > 4 day meeting I practiced 3/. He, neat, you must have a nice time machine, since i was in erkelenz only from friday night to sunday end-of-afternoon. Maybe you could lend it to us, so we could go and re

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-28 Thread Sven Luther
Taking this to -project, since i am no more a DD. On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 10:36:41AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 07:20:03AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 01:52:11AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > > Decision > > >

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 11:50:04AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > > >Taking this to -project, since i am no more a DD. > > I'm very unsure whether this was a reasonable move but I will at least > remove quotings from private. I

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 12:10:13PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > So, after Andrew Suffield, after Jonathan/Ted Walter, it is my turn, > > because i > > Before everybody starts to believe this, Andrew Suffield has not been expulsed > either.

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther (aka: why I'm now convinced he needs therapy)

2007-03-28 Thread Sven Luther
rmed > anymore by this kind of discussion and email exchanges. There were > already a few hundred mails too many written on this subject. Except myself, who am left bloody on the roadside to die, right ? > Have a good day, and I hope to see you again in a year. How can you expect me to have a good day with this ? You are really naive about judging human behaviour, are you not ? Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 12:55:24PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > Joey, if i came back in a year, at the minor difference between me and > > others, > > it would be "he is backsliding" again, and another round of this mess. > > This en

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 01:27:54PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > > >Well, you where not opposed to the likes of Frans, Manoj and Anthony, ... > > I think I tend to express my disagreement in different amplitude but even > more

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther (aka: why I'm now convinced he needs therapy)

2007-03-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 01:54:44PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 01:14:22PM +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Sven, will you stop replying -private mails on -project ? Why should i ? I have been expelled from debian, and can't

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther (aka: why I'm now convinced he needs therapy)

2007-03-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 02:09:54PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 01:59:46PM +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 01:54:44PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 01:14:22PM +0200, Sv

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther (aka: why I'm now convinced he needs therapy)

2007-03-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 02:49:29PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 02:32:48PM +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 02:09:54PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 01:59:46PM +0200, Sv

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther (aka: why I'm now convinced he needs therapy)

2007-03-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 09:42:42AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 01:59:46PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 01:54:44PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 01:14:22PM +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PRO

Formal inquiry about who censored the wiki pages ...

2007-03-28 Thread Sven Luther
from debian whoever it was who has abused his debian account in such a way. Joerg, Elmo, whoever else is in this charge, this is a clear violation of the policy, and as thus, you should immediately take action. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subje

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 07:52:48PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > Aigars Mahinovs wrote: > > Alexis Sukrieh wrote: > > > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) : > > >> I wanted that the expulsion be judged on his own, and not because i had > > >> behaved or n

Re: A not so Formal inquiry about who censored the wiki pages ...

2007-03-28 Thread Sven Luther
porn :-) > > Those who believe it is about something else: > believe what you want to believe There is Geert, coming out as expected. Fellow DD, would you also suspend Geert now, he has been indulging in the exact same behaviour which is reproached to me, so two weights two measures

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-28 Thread Sven Luther
ads, i was well behaving during january/february, and would have been ok, but before the ban even ended, they asked for my expulsion. what do you expect from me ? what ? Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 01:03:39AM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: > On 3/29/07, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 09:56:52AM +1000, Brian May wrote: > >> Sven, > >> > >> I don't think anything you could say will reverse t

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther

2007-03-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 05:47:03PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > > > This is very interesting, so you mean, it is impossible to have one > > > > thread on > > > > which one is very passionate, and post a lot, and then all the other

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:20:42AM -0700, Richard Hecker wrote: > On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 07:07 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > .. > > > I would have gladly accepted any decision, provided it was a fair one, but > > this one-sidedness is what caused all of this. > &

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 03:24:12PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 08:13:17PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:20:42AM -0700, Richard Hecker wrote: > > > On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 07:07 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > > >

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-30 Thread Sven Luther
urrent solution is only there to punish me, but doesn't solve the problem that you address. As such, i can only see it as an act of vengeance of a few who wanted to get ride of me, or as a stupid decision which fails to achieve its goal, and hurt me by doing so. Friendly, Sven Luth

Re: Expulsion process: Sven Luther - Decision

2007-03-30 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 01:52:11AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > Hello world, > > As you all know there's been an expulsion process (following the > procedure outlined in [1]) running, with Sven Luther as the > nominee. We've finally reached a decision. *Please* read t

Please expulse Frans Pop from debian, ... was : [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: This is getting ridiculous ...]

2007-04-02 Thread Sven Luther
e procedure was handled. Hurt, Sven Luther - Forwarded message from Eddy Petrişor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 21:45:37 +0300 From: Eddy Petrişor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-boot@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: This is g

Re: This is getting ridiculous ...

2007-04-02 Thread Sven Luther
m the team. This is evidence, beyond my own case, how Frans Pop is nuisible to debian, and should be suspended to give him time to reflect upon his errors, just as i have been suspended. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Please expulse Frans Pop from debian

2007-04-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 03:21:47PM +0200, Amaya wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > Hi, please read the following, and this may give you more of an > > insight about the situation. > > Please stop this *now* Why ? Every attempt at playing nice has been meet with more punishment.

Re: Please expulse Frans Pop from debian, ... was : [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: This is getting ridiculous ...]

2007-04-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 08:23:01PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 02:20:58PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > Hi, please read the following, and this may give you more of an insight > > about > > the situation. > > > Sven, > > E

Re: Please expulse Frans Pop from debian

2007-04-03 Thread Sven Luther
hich was dubious and hurting. When will Debian realise that there should be a way to solve social problems, and actually try to solve it, instead of trying to censor or silence the most annoying party ? This is a real question, and once Debian has an answer for that, it will solve my problem, but also

Re: Please expulse Frans Pop from debian

2007-04-03 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 11:29:08PM -0700, Richard Hecker wrote: > On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 22:56 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > .. > > > When will Debian realise that there should be a way to solve social > > problems, > > and actually try to solve it, instead of t

Re: Please expulse Frans Pop from debian

2007-04-04 Thread Sven Luther
january, february, and see that on february 21 some folk decided to want to expulse me again. Sorry, but playing nice doesn't work in debian, because the vast majority doesn't really care, or doesn't care enough to take action when iniquity happens. So, given that, what do you suggest to me ? Hurt, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ideas....

2007-04-07 Thread Sven Luther
nue to focus on quality and security > to keep this wonderful volunteer-run GNU/Linux distribution suitable for > business use. Releases are being delayed, because the developers loose to much time fighting between themselves :) Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Deficiencies in Debian

2007-05-10 Thread Sven Luther
factor enters the picture, and with it the power actually hold by those who are able to make other believe they represent debian, and you have the receipe for disaster. Saddened, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Deficiencies in Debian

2007-05-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 07:56:09PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 08:32:23AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > You mean like the when the problems i now have are a direct result of me > > THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT YOU PLEASE. PLEASE LEAVE. Then please commen

Re: Deficiencies in Debian

2007-05-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 04:13:48PM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 07:56:09PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > > > THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT YOU PLEASE. PLEASE LEAVE. > > > > Then please commen

Re: Deficiencies in Debian

2007-05-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 05:17:01PM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > > > >Please, Sven. There is already one thread about you in -vote where > > > you are already copiously posting and that people are acutely following. &

Re: Dropping sparc32 for Lenny (was: Scheduling linux-2.6 2.6.21-[23])

2007-05-18 Thread Sven Luther
t;For now I only want to disable it." in the message you quote. This seems in complete opposition to what you claim he did say. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Sven Luther
. Saddened, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 05:42:35PM +0200, David Weinehall wrote: > On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 04:48:35PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Well, in the ever continuing witch hunt against me, i just noticed, > > while i was working on a patch fix for the

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 05:56:38PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Well, in the ever continuing witch hunt against me, i just noticed, > > while i was working on a patch fix for the debian kernel, that i have > > been re

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 05:26:08PM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Sven Luther said: > > Hi all, > > > > Well, in the ever continuing witch hunt against me, i just noticed, > > while i was working on a patch fix for the debian kernel, that i

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 06:28:37PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > > > Well, in the ever continuing witch hunt against me, i just noticed, > > > > while i was working on a patch fix for the debian kernel, that i have > > > > b

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 06:52:13PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > > > If it would be done to anyone but me, you would cry in outrage, then why > > > > not do so now ? Because there are too many hidden powers involved ? > > > > > >

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 06:52:49PM +0200, Mohammed Adnène Trojette wrote: > On Sun, May 27, 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > > Hi all, > > Hi Sven, > > are you part of an organisation called GNAA? It is not nice to joke about your fellows hurt. Saddened, Sven Luther -- To

Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-27 Thread Sven Luther
next way to try to silence me could very well involve physical hurt. Let's again create a Debian to be proud of ... Saddened, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 05:56:38PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Well, in the ever continuing witch hunt against me, i just noticed, > > while i was working on a patch fix for the debian kernel, that i have > > been re

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 08:53:36PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hi all, > > On Sun, 27 May 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > > 17:55:11 < svenl> waldi: do you know who removed me from the kernel > > alioth team ? > > 17:57:44 < waldi> nope > >

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 10:23:14PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070527 20:56]: > > Hi all, > > > > On Sun, 27 May 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > > > 17:55:11 < svenl> waldi: do you know who removed me from the kernel &g

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 08:38:24AM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > Andreas Barth wrote: > > > On Sun, 27 May 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > 17:55:11 < svenl> waldi: do you know who removed me from the kernel > > > > alioth team ? > > > >

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Sven Luther
uch > > or something? He'll probably speak up and explain things. > > I already said that I can't remember. I know there was something about > dilinger and wli but not more. Fine, so can you reactivate my access ? Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EM

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Sven Luther
e, and in a shady and mysterious way. It is not acceptable that debian deals in mafioso politics, and the DAMs, by knowingly hiding most of the evidence, have actively participated in it. Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 01:03:29PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > > After some more pressure on IRC, your commit access has been restored. > > > > It is not enough, i want the suspension revoked, since it was a stupid > > decision, which has achi

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 01:33:28PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070528 13:23]: > > [...] > > Sven, this whole thread is about that your commit access to the kernel This whole thread is about me being stopped from doing meaningful debian technic

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 05:04:49PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 07:01:38PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > For the record, i did ask on #debian-kernel, and got no reply, and when > > asked, Bastian Blank did say he didn't know who did it, and Stephan >

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Sven Luther
tic campaign to hurt me, i would have gone away running, and not sacrificed so much of my time and work to debian. And you ask me to be silent ? Saddened, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 10:14:42AM -0700, Richard Hecker wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > >On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 01:03:29PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > > > >>Sven Luther wrote: > >> > >>>>After some more pressure on IRC, your commit access

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 08:16:22PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * Sven Luther [Mon, May 28 2007, 06:00:36PM]: > > > > You're not bringing up anything new. > > > > And i will repeat it as long as people try to ignore me, and until > > Debian s

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 11:05:00PM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote: > On Sun, May 27, 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > > > I am now making this request to you as DPL, that you investigate who was > > behind this action, and find out why it was done, and that it be > > publicly addres

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 11:05:00PM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote: > On Sun, May 27, 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > > > I am now making this request to you as DPL, that you investigate who was > > behind this action, and find out why it was done, and that it be > > publicly addres

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 09:31:19PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 08:16:22PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > >> Sven, come on. This is not the right time and not the right place to > > > > When is the right time

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 10:20:37PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * Sven Luther [Mon, May 28 2007, 08:23:52PM]: > > On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 08:16:22PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > > > cook this story _again_. You may be right, or not, it is just off-topic

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 10:14:23AM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > > > then so be it, debian is better off without such persons whose behaviour > > will only hurt the project again one way or another, and should not be > > encouraged.

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:00:31AM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > > > I am now making this request to you as DPL, that you investigate who was > > > > behind this action, and find out why it was done, and that it be > > > > publicly ad

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 08:30:31AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Sven Luther wrote: > > On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 09:31:19PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > >> You do not need to waste any more words on explain

Re: Another level of agression ?

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 11:53:07AM +0200, Julien BLACHE wrote: > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is the exact example of why things went bad in erkelenz, because > > you are unable to hear what others have to say, and want to impose your > > own opi

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 11:05:00PM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote: > On Sun, May 27, 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > > > I am now making this request to you as DPL, that you investigate who was > > behind this action, and find out why it was done, and that it be > > publicly addres

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 12:46:00PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 10:14:23AM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote: > >> On Tue, May 29, 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > >>> then so be it, d

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
s thread and go back to > work. No, we cannot, because the problem is not solved, because the DAMs decision was a stupid and unfair one, not even speaking of its irregularity and lack of transparence. So, read : Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and reply to its substance. Saddened, Sven

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 01:23:27PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 12:46:00PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > >> Debian is better off without you. Your behaviour has bee

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 01:40:55PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > Ok, but this was only the 'goute qui a fait deborder le vase', the > > bigger problem remains as a raw wound, for me, and for debian as a > > The - what you call - bigger pr

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 02:07:06PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070529 13:58]: > > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 01:40:55PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > > > Sven Luther wrote: > > > > Ok, but this was only the 'goute qui a fait de

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 08:27:07AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Just leave Debian, like that, and who will give me back all those years > > and uncountable hours i have sacrificed to debian ? Or the actual money > > and time and eq

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 02:22:29PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 01:40:55PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > > > Sven Luther wrote: > > > > Ok, but this was only the 'goute qui a fait deborder le vase', the >

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 02:27:20PM +0200, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070529 13:57]: > > So, what is the solution, i ask you, do you see some way out of this ? I > > am all ears, ... > > i proposed a solution to you that would let you work o

let's finally solve this whole mess which has lasted for over a year now ...

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 03:28:09PM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2007, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 01:13:02PM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote: > > >But you are not asking for justice, you are asking for revenge and > > > retalation. And

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 03:35:35PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > May i ask you why there is no other solution ? What is it that makes it > > a total heresy to even propose we try to solve it fairly and honourably ? > > Because what you would accept

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 04:35:01PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > Is this so much to ask ? I ask this not of you, but of Debian, of you > > Joey, of all other readers. > > Yes. How sad, ... but it isd because of this, that the problem is still present a

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 04:29:50PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 04:17:53PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > Ok, then we come back to the problem of Frans, right, who found it > > totally unacceptable that i dared to present myself as DPL, and chose to >

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 11:13:11AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 04:52:03PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 04:29:50PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 04:17:53PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > >

Re: Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 05:14:20PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > Ok, then we come back to the problem of Frans, right, who found it > > totally unacceptable that i dared to present myself as DPL, and chose to > > hurry to search expulsion supporter

Re: Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 05:41:44PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 29 mai 2007 à 17:32 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : > > > Sven, let me ask you something. Do you really feel you stood a single > > > chance to be elected as DPL? > > > > Nope > &g

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 10:29:35AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Sven Luther dijo [Tue, May 29, 2007 at 01:21:20PM +0200]: > > > without a reason. This is justice: the harm was undone, you have aquired > > > an additional level of protection, and no measures were taken against

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 10:35:21AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Sven Luther dijo [Tue, May 29, 2007 at 02:52:22PM +0200]: > > > Funny thing about volunteers.. They tend to give their time willingly > > > without getting things in return. That's kind of the point. If

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 10:31:45AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Sven Luther dijo [Tue, May 29, 2007 at 02:12:19PM +0200]: > > > > Then what will change it ? > > > > > > Just leave Debian. > > > > Why should i ? Just because debian is unable tyo reco

Re: Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 06:05:53PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 29 mai 2007 à 17:58 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : > > Ok, so you have really no idea and are just trolling ? > > Yes, definitely. I think Debian should remain a place of shadowy > dealings and mafioso p

Re: Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 05:55:07PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 29 mai 2007 à 17:44 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : > > Can you tell me a single other reason which justified that my expulsion > > was requested on february 7 or so ? > > For example, that could be

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 06:25:29PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 18:10:41 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > So, maybe i should publish the irc logs of the french cabal to help your > > memory, right ? > > > TINFC. Oh fun, MadCoder is threa

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 06:32:00PM +0200, David Weinehall wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 06:07:40PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > [snip] > > Err, a handful is "so many people". I guess this is the cause of all my > > problem, we don't speak the same language. &

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
ound half of this thread, instead of saying, ok, we will investigate the issue, and solve this so everyone is happy. Sad, isn't it ? Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 05:50:51PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > On 11034 March 1977, Sven Luther wrote: > > > As an example of why this is a mess : > > 14:27:44 < Ganneff> svenl: would you *ever* consider something as > > "valid way out" thats no

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 06:19:14PM +0100, Stephen Birch wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > Yes, it is only a handful of people who really have a problem with me. I > > guess if you go down to it there is only a single person who really has > > a problem, and a few others who also

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 07:45:51PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 04:52:03PM +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 04:29:50PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 04:17:53PM +0200, Sven Luther

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 07:21:08PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:36:47AM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > > > Sven, > > > > > > You may or may not have been mistreated but the volume of your > > > argument

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 08:35:05PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070529 18:17]: > > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 10:29:35AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > > Sven Luther dijo [Tue, May 29, 2007 at 01:21:20PM +0200]: > > > > > without a

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:45:59PM +0300, Teodor wrote: > On 5/29/07, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Yes, it is only a handful of people who really have a problem with me. I > >guess if you go down to it there is only a single person who really has > >a pr

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 11:49:23AM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > On Tuesday 29 May 2007 09:59, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:36:47AM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > > > You might want to consider developing a web page with careful > > > analysis of evidence

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:05:59PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 11034 March 1977, Sven Luther wrote: > > >> > 14:27:44 < Ganneff> svenl: would you *ever* consider something as > >> > "valid way out" thats not 100% what you want, ie "you

Re: Public request that action be taken at whoever abused their technical power to remove me from the kernel team at alioth.

2007-05-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:07:31PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 07:21:08PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote: > > > Sven Luther wrote: > > > > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 09:36:47AM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > > > > >

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