On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 02:16:46PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 08:43:27PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> >> Furthermore, I know I've spoken with a number of developers who don
On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 02:21:57PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 01:33:19PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > No, i got _NO_ANSWER_,
>
> Actually, you did get an answer. You didn't like it, which is fine, but
> that doesn't mean it's not
On Sat, Jun 03, 2006 at 09:47:18AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> -kernel dropped, we've wasted their time enough on this.
>
> On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 01:33:19PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > So, because people are angry with me because of my email communication
> > me
> doesn't seem to be a decision *about* money held in trust.
Except when we make the donor believe he donates money to us when he does in
fact not ? I believe that MJ's argumentation run along those lines.
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te from the constitution. Well, it is a list, but the importance of
it is different, so i don't know in how far it is applicable here.
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this tax exemption would be
valid in other countries of the EU too. If this is verified, it would
naturally make more sense for european folk to donate to european non-profit
tax-exempted associations.
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On Sun, Jun 11, 2006 at 02:18:43PM +0200, Sylvain Sauvage wrote:
> Dimanche 11 juin 2006, 13:47:18 CEST, Sven Luther a écrit :
> >[...]
> > There was also talk of an EU regulation, which said that if an
> > association had tax-exemption in one of the EU countries, then t
powers who be can be subject to it, i
am the life example of this.
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"sleeper agents"
> infiltrated into Debian.
Well, it probably has one less such now, who will be the next target of the
witch hunt ? /me still thinks it would have been more in-touch if they had
burned Jonathan/Ted on the stack on the central plaza of mexico, like the
spanish inquisitio
On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 01:12:38PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 02:48:59AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > [...] [The DPL] clearly mentioned that the only way to solve this
> > was going through the TC (of which as i was told 3 members are already
> >
On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 01:36:03PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 02:06:16PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> >
> >This is not what happened, and i have told both you and Steve that your
> >decision will cause a worse mess, and that this will only mean regu
e kernel side of it (like the exemplar 2.6.14 release, and the
one-day-since-upstream upload process). Let me quote one thing back at you,
from memory, so feel free to correct my wordings back to you :
" we won't bother to fix the obvious breaks on powerpc, because we know that
eventua
se dpatch or some other such tool ? Or which are
maintained on svn.debian.org for example ?
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On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 12:21:31PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 11:59:40AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > > On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, MJ Ray wrote:
> > > > Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ant wrt the topic of the minutes, etc.).
On the other hand, your private replies of this kind, are often patronizing
and i can see how they could be interpreted as borderline insulting.
Maybe you should be a bit more comprehensive of the position of the poster
when you do so next time.
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aconf events, but
is totally off-topic here.
You may disagree on this, but i urge you to investigate the background of such
malfunctions before you comment on them in the future.
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iner uploads by
> visiting the BTS via web everyday!", but well, conceivably so could say
> the maintainer, and he receives the mail anyway.)
>
> If there are no reasonable objections, I'll let this hang in my ~/TODO. :)
What about automatically subscribing uploaders ? Be the
e it integrated into the normal checking for upgrades
solution, so you won't tremendously create new traffic.
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On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 01:28:04PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> What does the LSB 3.1 say about amd64 and libdirs? Does it require lib
> to contain 32bit libs?
Does this same question apply to other 64bit arches, like sparc64 or powerpc64
for example ?
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f the microsoft-office program a user or DD may have on the
same harddisk he installs debian on.
To add to that, if i where Peter, i may feel slightly offended by the tone of
your reply as well as the content of it. You are the DPL, and as thus speak
with the authority given by the whole p
re, which may not be visible
immediately, but which causes choice of non-perfectly-adequate wordings
because of lack of vocabulary, or missing the subltetlies of various wording
possibilities and misjudging the strength of them.
You on the other side don't have this excuse :)
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#x27;t put in it the interpretation you seem to put (awful English,
> sorry, folks).
Maybe it is not best for us non-english speaker to comment on the content of
aj's post, but i am happy that i am was not the only reacting to it. Maybe it
is something french people are more sensible t
xample, it seems clear that aj regarder the 'red hearing' word as pretty
insulting to whoever it was Peter was replying to, to the point to make the
commenthe made, while i found this just plain normal way of saying it.
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On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 09:24:16PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 12:32:46PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Well, the only one who could claim that his views have some representativity
> > of the project as a whole is you, everyone else is just expressing his
e Debian's
consensus, and even if he did say his comment in a rather authoritative way,
this is common usage, and many transpose their strong opinion in such a way.
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em non-free
> and inappropriate for main.
The last of the three pre-sarge non-free GRs confirmed the fact that firmware
is indeed a code binary, and should have source. A majority of the DDs voted
that, and unless there is another GR reverting this, that opinion is binding
to the project.
Th
oses of having access to the prefered form of modification, is
to be able to fix bugs.
If the firmware for your fibrechannel card has a bug, are you currently able
to fix it ? And if so, do you think the binary-only firmware you have
available is the prefered form of modification ?
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On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 07:14:03AM -0600, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 02:44:48PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 06:08:08AM -0600, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > I think the key distinction (as far as I'm concerned) is that Debian
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 03:00:07PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> In linux.debian.vote Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 09:24:16PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> >> On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 12:32:46PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
>
sic boot sector.
It is still relatively easily possible to design the whole non-free firmware
support in such a way that it is totally transparent to the user, apart of a
message in the installer or something, which will inform him that he needs
non-free firmware for its hardware, and asks
;
> Wait. So by "Non-free stuff being put in the operating systems", you
> mean "Non-free stuff lives on my filesystem"?
What about non-free stuff shipped by debian ?
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l CD, which contained a non-free version of d-i (which need
to include certain non-free firmwares and drivers in the images), and all the
additional non-free firmware stuff.
This way, we could add a list of pci ids needding non-fre hardware, and do a
check pretty early in the installer, and if th
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 05:39:43PM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote:
>
> [Sven Luther]
> > To add to that, if i where Peter, i may feel slightly offended by the
> > tone of your reply as well as the content of it.
>
> I wasn't offended. AJ's tone wasn't derog
.
Maybe we can arrive to some kind of agreement with manufacturer to have them
free the source of their firmwares after some time or something.
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-i upgrades in a matter of
days, and it only would need tests for regressions in the kernel code itself,
or in the interface of those helper tools, but given the importance of those
kernels upgrades (a quick test, who really runs sarge kernels on sarge, and
not some self-built or backported ones ?),
gt; in a data center several km away from me. *sweat*
Yes, we should get a backported udev with more stability going or something.
Udev is the real pain on this, and since initramfs-tools needs it ...
> > I'm not talking about something like 2.4 to 2.6, just point releases
> &g
package as
> well.
As said, most of those are pulled in by initramfs-tools, yaird is much more
economic in this aspect, and why it has my original vote for default ramdisk
generator tool in debian.
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y seem to
either be, or in close contact to someone who is, an upstream author of such
firmwares.
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On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 10:07:55PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 03:07:11PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 11:00:44PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
>
> > > To those who consider ROM-less hardware cheap and nasty I suggest the
>
loads where allowed in some distant past (some
4-5 years ago), but explicitly disabled.
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Some 4-5 years ago, source-only uploads where definitively working, and it was
really nice to do those, when i was behind a slow modem line, and the
binary/source ratio was very big.
It was disabled because some unresponsible guys used to upload
not-even-checked source packages i believe.
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having random sets of non-official libraries installed and such.
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d binary, which happens to have been built
with an non-official library on the developper machine, or with devel X
libs,or whatever else. I guess all those already happened in the past.
Not to count the few packages which are not buildable out of main, but need
some extra non-official packages or
doing so" ?
> D. Requests that vendors of hardware, even those whose firmware is
I think "Request" is a bit strong here, i would much have prefered a less
arrogant and will actually have more chance to be not dismissed out of hand by
the actual hardware vendors.
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On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 02:50:19PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Sep 2006, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 10:07:18PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> >
> > > C. Reaffirms its continued support of users whose hardware (or
> > > softw
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I second the below proposal.
== BEGIN PROPOSAL =
The Free Software movement is about enabling users to modify the works
that they use on their computer; about giving users the same
information that copyrigh
On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 10:02:08AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 08:40:08 +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 10:27:12PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Proponents of var
ey depend on broken US banks, which among others are not fully
able to even cash in checks without losing some of them, i don't think this
would be a good idea at all.
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>
> Hmm, maybe it is because the developer is jealous on/of somebody
> being directly or indirectly paid by the project while they are
> not?
Which is why the paiement should have come from the debian funds. It would
have been order's of magnitude more useful ways to handle thi
etch at least 6 months as the d-i team
said we should. This is indeed a possibility, but then why not say so directly ?
There are many folk who are all so happy to critic my mails and actions and
thinkings about the subject, but then, they don't care about the mess caused,
because they
dvantage. That way, we are not selling the DVDs, which
makes it easier withe regard to taxes, regulation and whatever.
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>
> If it appears to me that my judgement as secretary is being
> affected, I shall immediately recuse myself and delegate the power.
I fear that your judgement to notice such conflict of interest is not so good
as you think, since this is alrea
the more experienced ftp-masters to do the more demanding work,
but this was flatly rejected, and you perfectly know about it.
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ble for inspection at
> least for DDs.
> Letting people make suggestions for rejecting packages that they've
> found mistakes should be not very dangerous to the archive.
BTW, maybe one cool solution would be to make all NEW packages available, not
to the outside world, but behind som
a week now, but without success, so it leaves me no other solution than
bring it up in a public forum, and i now ask you that you stay true to your
word, and revisit the issue now.
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a very sick situation to be in, and i am still hallucinated on how
anyone could believe this would ever get solved this way.
So, if you really want full links, i may come up with some, not sure if it
will be helpful though.
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g the best technical
work we can.
In hope of finding fair and reasonable readers, ...
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contribute to that).
So, again, i ask that this issue is but to a stop, that my svn commit access
to the d-i repository is restored, that frans stops his provocations against
me, and that we go back to coding hapily ever after.
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On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 09:20:24PM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2006, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Well, on various suggestions, i have written the following text :
> > http://wiki.debian.org/SvenLutherAndDI
>
> Would have been nice to clarify that this is you
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 03:13:06PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 09:20:24PM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 31, 2006, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > Well, on various suggestions, i have written the following text :
> > > http://wiki
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 07:02:16PM +, MJ Ray wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > http://wiki.debian.org/SvenLutherAndDI [...]
> > For those awaiting evil gossip, you will be strongly disapointed though,
> > since
> > i have decided to not g
John,
Can we take this privately next time ?
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 10:31:32PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 10:54:38PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > Surely we have passed this point a month or two ago. We are wasting
> > > everyone's time.
On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 05:54:43PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 08:25:40AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > And if he hurts the powerpc users with these actions ?
>
> Then they will be mad at him. Perhaps you should be happy with that.
No, because i don&#
own on others, who have less time to give to debian, or
are less power-hungry, or whatever.
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the current trend of things and the actions
> of the current DPL.
Now, there is a majority of people who think we didn't want to recall the DPL,
for a variety of reasons.
This has nothing whatsoever to do with aproving of dunk-tank, or a blind
promise to re-elect Anthony as DPL next year.
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 03:59:48PM -0300, Blu wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 07:15:16PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 01:44:40PM -0300, Blu wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 09:35:31PM -0300, calvesmit wrote:
> > > > My name is Carlos Al
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 09:48:14AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> Hi Anthony,
Well, we had a chat with both Anthony and Sledge the other day, where i
explained my position, and asked for something to happen. I also sent them
some mail, and well, was positive that something will happen out of t
On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 08:06:23PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 03:42:01PM +0100, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 09:48:14AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > Hi Anthony,
> >
> > Well, we had a chat
On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 09:30:51PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 08:15:30PM +0100, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Mike, if it is really all my fault and only my fault, please enlighten me on
> > how to interpret the above exchange.
&
On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 05:17:44PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 08:15:30PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > How can i be the problem, if i have many times tried to solve it, and was
> > always rejected ?
>
> The only problem I have seen you attempt to s
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 10:17:11AM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> On 10830 March 1977, Sven Luther wrote:
>
> > Well, the problem is more complicated than you think. There are many issues
> > at
> > hand here, the first being that i have a right to have svn access, becaus
to the BTS.
This seems totally at odd with Steve's complaint i only want the commit back,
and do not want to solve the issue.
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[1] the apple G5 fancontrol patches are not yet commited for example, making
the boxes go into airplan noiselevel a minute after booting, making
On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 12:01:14PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> On 10830 March 1977, Sven Luther wrote:
>
> >> And thats the point you get wrong. No, you dont "have a right to have
> >> svn access". You have the right to fork d-i and run your own, but no
>
should maybe rethink their position ?
Just wanting to shut me up is not going to help there.
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during this time, and this didn't help.
So, sorry to be bothering you all again, but being silent doesn't help in
this.
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if you just would do it, it would help a
> >>lot.
> >
> >Well, it has been over 6 months, and i was silent about this for longer
> >times
> >during this time, and this didn't help.
> >
> >So, sorry to be bothering you all again, but being silent doesn't
On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 02:12:32PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 12:21:41PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Are all DDs equal?
>
> No. Debian is a meritocracy; "those who do, get to decide". There is
> nothing wrong with that. On the contrary -
Well, we could find (or produce ?) braille RSA tokens if needed, no ?
> In my opinion, RSA tokens are very evil, from an accessibility point of view.
> Since you effectively state that only people with working eye-sight
> are competent enough to use your system.
no, simply that existing R
lle
display for example. Done as a open-source hardware project, with open source
hardware design tools. That would be a worthy project, and the open sourceness
of it could both be an example of open source hardware, and improve the
computer security generally.
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On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 08:32:10AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 06:47:57PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 06:38:58PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > >I'm inclin
ll get me involved
in this kind of stuff anymore.
And there is a parallel in this "experiment" thingy. It resulted in such a
motivation killer that it was more destructive than any other possible path,
and will have long term consequences. You cannot engage in such actions, and
then act a
ething :). I would be, and i guess others would be too, very interested in
your self-analysis of how you handled this problem, and what you learned from
it.
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t; thing?
As current gnome is 2.16, probably 2.18 before etch is released, i guess he
means we are already shiping with outdated packages.
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ay around is dishonest and will falsify the result of
the experiment.
Maybe even some will start feeling motivated again only once you are no more
DPL, or whatever.
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On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 12:11:19PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:59:24AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > One thing you could do is to end *NOW* the experiment,
>
> Can you please roughly outline what is going to happen when the
> experiment is continued u
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:00:38PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 12:30:16PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 12:11:19PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:59:24AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > > On
to deal with. Personally, I don't consider the experiment over
> 'til all those loose ends are tied up; and it could easily turn out that
> the logistical issues alone are enough of a problem to make this sort
> of endeavour not worth the effort.
What about the analysis and result
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:48:45PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 01:21:35PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Like said, the experiment will finish once it is officially finished, and
> > once
> > the analysis has been done, and the final report result is pub
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 02:09:54PM +0100, Roland Mas wrote:
> >> > > I would be interested in the difference of the two action lists.
> >> >
> >> > Well, the experiment is flawed [...]
>
> >> Let me ask again: What is going to happen when the e
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 10:47:26AM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Sven Luther dijo [Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:53:52AM +0100]:
> > > > Which is why we release with gnome 2.14.
> > >
> > > I don't understand. Do you consider this to be a good thing or a bad
>
On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 03:33:49PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 02:17:35PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > [...] Personally, I don't consider the experiment over
> > > 'til all those loose ends are tied up; and it could easily turn out t
On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 12:48:16AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 08:40:41AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > I would further expect that you didn't try to pollute the experiment result
> > with stuff like the mail starting this thread. From the tone o
On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 01:39:10PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 07:35:59PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Well, as said, i think this is a very good time to make an actual,
> > third-party and impartial sociological study of the impact of this
> >
r.
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> That's unacceptable behaviour.
> Are we really going to some kind of multi-classes developers system?
This is already a reality, not something we are going to.
Friendly,
Sven Luther
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in much by a neutral outsider analysis of
the situation, and as said, it is probably an interested research topic for
you :)
Friendly,
Sven Luther
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> Thanks, Jim
>
> James Gerlach
> Professor of Information Systems
> University of Colorado -- De
On Sat, Dec 23, 2006 at 08:33:25AM +0100, Amaya wrote:
> Sven Luther wrote:
> > Thanks, i think that debian will gain much by a neutral outsider
> > analysis of the situation, and as said, it is probably an interested
> > research topic for you :)
>
> As I understan
sastrous situation, and Anthony's term has in my
memory been one of the socially worse debian years.
Friendly,
Sven Luther
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On Sun, Dec 24, 2006 at 01:04:36PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 23, 2006 at 01:30:48PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Indeed, it was her which i had in mind originally, and which i urged Anthony
> > as DPL to contact. I was mostly ignored except one post saying &quo
team-based with inter-team
communication and multiple backups setup.
This is i believe the major challenge that debian has been facing into all his
structural positions, and altough some areas made the move cleanly, altough
not without growing pains, the buildd infrastructure is maybe not one o
On Tue, Jan 02, 2007 at 05:47:36PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 05:38:19PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 12:44:46AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > > < skipped private comment from Anthony Towns where he asks me to be banned
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