Would you agree - Debian is for the tech savvy

2016-01-15 Thread Stephan Foley
Hello, I'm trying to characterize Debian and have the following: Debian is for the tech savvy sys admin type and the server market Is this a good characterization or am I off base? Thanks

Re: Would you agree - Debian is for the tech savvy

2016-01-16 Thread Stephan Foley
> [Miles Fidelman] >> Used to be. These days, in the wake of systemd, at least this sys >> admin will never install it again. The reasons are technical. [Andrew McGlashan] > Yes, it is certainly limiting my view of Debian to be one that is now > broken and definitely not what Ian Murdock envisio

Re: Would you agree - Debian is for the tech savvy

2016-01-16 Thread Stephan Foley
[Teemu Likonen] > You have the old stereotype of Debian. The reality is different: the > default Debian desktop install gives you a normal easy-to-use end-user > operating system and applications. This has been the case for a long > time but many people still maintain old stereotypes. > > Of cours

Re: Would you agree - Debian is for the tech savvy

2016-01-16 Thread Stephan Foley
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 6:20 AM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: > The main difference between Debian and Ubuntu is that the installer is > less friendly-user, and the firmware are not loaded by default. But I > think Debian is really the Universal Operating System. And it's the > characterization I

Re: Would you agree - Debian is for the tech savvy

2016-01-18 Thread Stephan Foley
Hi Yaroslav and thanks for the reply! On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko > in my perception it is as good characterization as > >Keyboard is for writing SPAM and FUD emails > > i.e. you can definitely use it for that purpose, but not exclusively or > might even that wouldn't

Re: Re: Would you agree - Debian is for the tech savvy

2016-01-22 Thread Stephan Foley
[Yaroslav Halchenko] >> And, I am tech-savvy :-) > > Why wasn't it enough to run these two commands? > apt-get install xorg > apt-get install fluxbox > > The instructions on the wiki metion only this: > https://wiki.debian.org/FluxBox#Installation grrr Well, first off, I had to figure o

would like to contribute python code - any good projects

2016-01-22 Thread Stephan Foley
Hello, not sure if this is the right list. I'd like to contribute a little Python coding...nothing huge, under 300 lines would be best. I could either work with an established project or rewrite something. One thing I recently discovered is python-debian. It has a nice routine to parse deb822 file

Re: Re: Would you agree - Debian is for the tech savvy

2016-01-22 Thread Stephan Foley
Hi Paul and thanks for the reply. On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > Replying with my fluxbox hat on, and perhaps Debian too. > > Well, patches to add some defaults in an external package is super > welcome :) I did put up a Fluxbox spec off of DebianDesktop: https://wik

Re: Re: Would you agree - Debian is for the tech savvy

2016-02-04 Thread Stephan Foley
Hi Wouter and thanks for the reply. On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > It is fair to say that Debian supports: > - Non-technical desktop users who want to use one of: > - Gnome > - KDE > - Mate > - Cinnamon > - XFCE > - LXDE > - non-technical users who want to r

Re: DE discussions

2016-02-08 Thread Stephan Foley
[Amruth Chand] > Hey, why ain't anyone bringing in dwm? Sure, no config is a bummer...But > just a few thousand lines of code sure makes it compile fast. Add dmenu > and powerline and it is pretty awesome! I like the whole suckless.org philosophy. I've never used dwm, but I know people love it and

Re: Re: Would you agree - Debian is for the tech savvy

2016-02-08 Thread Stephan Foley
Hi Gunnar, On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > I mean, who needs a desktop? A background? Overlapping windows? We the > *real* tech-savvy people only need a tiling window manager, such as > i3: > > https://screenshots.debian.net/package/i3 > http://i3wm.org/ > > I mean,

Re: Re: Would you agree - Debian is for the tech savvy

2016-02-08 Thread Stephan Foley
Hi Wouter, On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 4:28 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > The best way to get anything done in Debian is to do it yourself. If you > want to encourage Debian to have Fluxbox as an easy-to-select option for > a desktop install, I encourage you to talk to the tasksel maintainers > and the