Re: Hey!

2005-01-03 Thread Peter Vandenabeele
On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 01:07:46PM +0100, Thomas Jollans wrote: > On 2005-01-02 05:40:01 +0100 KEG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Sorry to be a pain but... As a newcomer to the Debian-Installer, I was facing similar initial orientation problems when trying out the debian-installer for the firs

Re: documentation x executable code

2005-01-06 Thread Peter Vandenabeele
On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 08:53:07AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 12:03:49PM +0100, David Weinehall wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 08:05:57PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > > Because this is *exactly* the situation you get with invariant sections. > > Sure, you can add ano

Re: documentation x executable code

2005-01-06 Thread Peter Vandenabeele
On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 05:31:31AM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 10:56:57AM +0100, Peter Vandenabeele wrote: > > An interesting consequence of this proposal is that a Copy-Exact of > > the GPL License could not longer go into main (as it is essentially

Re: documentation x executable code

2005-01-06 Thread Peter Vandenabeele
On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 08:53:45AM -0500, Michael Poole wrote: > Peter Vandenabeele writes: > > I did not understand why a document with invariant sections cannot > > be part of "Free/main" (in the Debian context) and the GPL license > > which states that it onl

Re: documentation x executable code

2005-01-06 Thread Peter Vandenabeele
On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 02:18:13PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > Peter Vandenabeele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I did not understand why a document with invariant sections cannot > > be part of "Free/main" (in the Debian context) and the GPL license > > which state

Re: documentation x executable code

2005-01-07 Thread Peter Vandenabeele
On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 05:31:31AM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 10:56:57AM +0100, Peter Vandenabeele wrote: > > So, I conclude that the Debian license scheme should cater in some way > > for allowing invariant sections as part of the documentation (but not

Re: documentation x executable code

2005-01-09 Thread Peter Vandenabeele
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 03:05:33PM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: > The GFDL is non-free, even without invariant sections. See: > > http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.xhtml > > for a summary of a previous time this was discussed to death. :) Thanks :-) I feel a little embara

Re: Dealing with drivers that need firmware on the filesystem

2005-01-09 Thread Peter Vandenabeele
On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 02:36:03AM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > It's becomingly increasingly common for hardware to require firmware to > be loaded by the device driver on boot, rather than containing it in > ROM. This is unfortunate, because in most cases the firmware is > non-free. As a result

Re: Delegation for trademark negotiatons with the DCCA

2005-08-22 Thread Peter Vandenabeele
On Sun, Aug 21, 2005 at 05:18:50PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > Please feel free to e-mail me at any time if you have questions or > wish to make a comment on the usage of the trademark; I will (as > usual) be participating on -project and -legal. I am not a Debian Developer, but when I look at t

Re: Delegation for trademark negotiatons with the DCCA

2005-08-22 Thread Peter Vandenabeele
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 02:38:38PM +0200, Peter Vandenabeele wrote: > So a naming in the sense of "Debian Commercial Support Association" > or something along those lines would seem to make it clearer to me ... or just stick to the original "DCC" as "Debian Co

Re: Delegation for trademark negotiatons with the DCCA

2005-08-22 Thread Peter Vandenabeele
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 01:59:43PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 03:07:07PM +0200, Peter Vandenabeele wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 02:38:38PM +0200, Peter Vandenabeele wrote: > > > So a naming in the sense of "Debian Commercial Support Associati

Re: Retailing

2005-11-13 Thread Peter Vandenabeele
On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 05:38:59PM +, Philip Hands wrote: ... > You should be careful not to give the impression that you are charging a > license fee though -- you are allowed to charge a fee for the copy of > the programs, or for the service of installing them, but not for the > licenses (in

Re: Dealing with drivers that need firmware on the filesystem

2005-01-12 Thread Peter Vandenabeele
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 10:33:40AM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I must confess I do not see it that way. I think of Debian as > > distriuting softwware that runs on a platform, this platform consists > > of hardware, and, perhaps, asso

Re: Dealing with drivers that need firmware on the filesystem

2005-01-13 Thread Peter Vandenabeele
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 02:12:20PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > That's the question that I see unanswered. Is the first motivation of > > banning > > non-free firmware from main to allow distribution consistent with DFSG > > or is it because we want to promote free firmware (if realistic) ? >

Re: New policy for http://www.debian.org/consultants/

2005-01-17 Thread Peter Vandenabeele
On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 06:35:49PM +, MJ Ray wrote: > I dislike the "nearest big city" idea, though. I live and > work in an area with a small city nearby and then four bigger > cities surrounding me. Most of my work comes from the nearest > and furthest of those cities. Grouping by English reg

Re: Is there a cost for bussiness to use Debian?

2005-04-26 Thread Peter Vandenabeele
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 12:30:19AM +1000, Steve Cottom wrote: ... > I have been told that Linux is free for personal use but businesses must > pay, I need to comfirm this for this situation. This statement is incorrect. Debian consists entirely of "Free" software (Free in the sense of Freedom, F

Re: sarge and the Wall Street Journal

2005-06-08 Thread Peter Vandenabeele
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 01:51:40PM +, Thaddeus H. Black wrote: ... > I lack past experience in media relations. I don't > really know what to say. I don't think that, "Get a > clue, dude" would help. Suggestions? * _start_ the discussion on the positive news about Sarge and the importance

Re: sarge and the Wall Street Journal

2005-06-09 Thread Peter Vandenabeele
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 01:51:40PM +, Thaddeus H. Black wrote: > So on the day sarge releases, the big news in the > free-software world is, "Bruce Perens gets a job?" Well, Sarge == stable _did_ make it to the news now, but probably not as we have hoped ... My ZDnet news agent mailed me thi

Re: sarge and the Wall Street Journal

2005-06-09 Thread Peter Vandenabeele
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 03:51:41PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > > There was a devel-announce about it as soon as it was discovered. > > Additionally, it was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and > is visible on http://www.debian.org/CD/releases/ - had anyone > actually had time to download, burn and sell these

Re: sarge and the Wall Street Journal

2005-06-10 Thread Peter Vandenabeele
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 07:18:04PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > Peter Vandenabeele wrote: > > This needs to be done fast, so that journalists and other interested > > parties that want to follow up on this "news" also get our side > > of the story. Otherwise we

Re: sarge and the Wall Street Journal

2005-06-10 Thread Peter Vandenabeele
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 02:25:36PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > Peter Vandenabeele wrote: > > My only proposal is to urgently bring the information of which version > > is the current "stable" version in line on the different pages under > > http://www.debian.or