On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 09:15:00PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 01:09:19PM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 08:35:51PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 06:19:32PM +0100, Pete van der Spoel wrote:
> > > > Or is the wh
On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 01:58:22PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've been reading the debian site for hours and i'm deeply sensitive to the
> debian philosophy of distributing linux.
Great!
> i've spend a long time to learn on the book bought with my RedHat package,
> and now i'm used to the
On Sat, Dec 25, 2004 at 05:13:05PM -0800, warren wojcik wrote:
> Would you please help me. I would like the open sourse community to take
> on the attached project. What do I need to do?
For a start, don't send your proposals around as .doc files. Second, know
that the Open Source community does
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 04:02:38PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 10:28:29PM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 02:11:03PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > > [ ... referencing earlier docs ... ]
> >
> > Sometimes this is a good approach, sometime it isn't
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 05:03:09PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 04:13:25PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 04:02:38PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > > sorry, but that argument is bogus. convenience is NOT the same as
> >
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 01:15:13AM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 05:10:18PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > > the format for an RFC is pretty much prescribed by convention if not by
> > > explict written rule, and the data is implicit in what you'
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 05:38:31PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> (similarly, you CAN modify an invariant section - but you can only do so by
> adding a new section that subverts or refutes or simply adds to the invariant
> section. i.e. you can make whatever comments you like about it, but you can
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 06:01:41PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 05:10:18PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 05:03:09PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > > no, acroread is DFSG non-free for other reasons that have nothing
> >
On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 07:46:28PM +0100, Leslie Ianson wrote:
> I have noticed when browsing the package lists that PHP 5 in not
> currently support but on the official Debian site but I have seen
> binaries on http://dotdeb.org/ are these likely to be stable?
Best to ask the people that supply t
On Mon, Nov 14, 2005 at 05:44:25PM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote:
>
> [Michael Poole]
> > For example, GRUB and Linux are both licensed under the GPL. Both
> > would be included with these retail systems and would be written to
> > locate and call functions within the BIOS; that is, GRUB and Linux
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 01:57:12PM +, Roger Leigh wrote:
> I don't disagree. I would much rather every ubuntu change had a
> corresponding patch filed in the BTS,
Every "relevant" change put into the BTS would be nice, yes. Filing
everything in the BTS would result in a lot of "patch,wontfix
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 04:17:32AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 01:06:51PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > There's "I screwed up because I made a mistake", and there's "I screwed up
> > because I don't actually know what I
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 11:57:37AM +0100, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> On 12/15/05, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 01:06:51PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 01:57:12PM +, Roger Leigh wrote:
> > >
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 10:50:54AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > > OTOH, I've seen a number of ubuntu patches which were blatantly wrong,
> > > where the maintainer clearly didn't grok the package the
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 08:29:20AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 10:00:22PM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, den 15.12.2005, 15:39 +0100 schrieb Sven Luther:
> > Sounds like a very good idea, and fully in the scope of Utnubu. Some
> > questions:
> >
> > * Is
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 05:12:18PM -0500, Daniel Tasch wrote:
> "One of the problems Linux users in countries like India have is low
> bandwidth. They prefer to get their distributions on CD or DVD as far as
> possible. Debian is very badly affected by this as we usually stress
> updating over t
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 12:10:54AM +0100, JanC wrote:
> On 1/17/06, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How about renaming Maintainer to Debian-Maintainer in Ubuntu's binary
> > packages, and having a specific Ubuntu-Maintainer?
>
> This should probably happen in a way that all (or most
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 09:20:33AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 07:08:38PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > I keep hearing this, but I really don't believe it. In Debian, "Maintainer"
> > means "An individual or group of people primari
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 12:41:49PM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 07:13:31AM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 09:20:33AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > > By way of example, the Debian maintainer is equipped to answer questions
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 01:40:11PM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 08:31:44AM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > All you'll get is the loud minority having a whinge then, no matter what the
> > outcome.
>
> It will certainly beat the hell out of c
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 05:33:33PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sunday 22 January 2006 03:16, David Weinehall wrote:
>
> > Since all Ubuntu packages are recompiled against a different set of
> > libraries, the bug might not even affect the Debian package, even though
> > they share the same sou
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 06:49:37AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Tuesday 24 January 2006 00:08, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > Le lundi 23 janvier 2006, Paul Johnson a écrit :
> > > On Sunday 22 January 2006 03:16, David Weinehall wrote:
> > > > Since all Ubuntu packages are recompiled against a diff
[uhm, dude, line length?]
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 06:04:25PM -0800, Will L (sent by Nabble.com) wrote:
> My view is that commiters will favor mailing list because it requires
> commitment, as Adners said, it has a sense of "seriousness". But, is it
> reasonable to expect a general user to be commi
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 12:32:22PM +0100, Anders Breindahl wrote:
> On 2006-01-26 1710, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > I'm doing this for me. Benefits which may flow to others are coincidental.
>
> I wouldn't expect you to be the person who's answering trivial newbie
&g
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 01:01:32PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Which other derivative has made available all of the changes they've made,
> > more-or-less as they make them?
>
> Which other derivative doe
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 02:46:02AM +0100, Gabor Gombas wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 01:04:17AM +, Brian M. Carlson wrote:
> > However, the code of conduct seems to
> > point out that one should not Cc someone unless they specifically ask
> > for it (a guideline that you neglected to follow,
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 09:12:33PM -0400, GNAA Jmax wrote:
> This is exactly the sort of hate i expected from the debian community. I
> feel ashamed to be a debian user, as though I have betrayed my brothers and
> sisters by giving into your hate. I shall not tolerate this, and will be
> consider
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 10:44:41AM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> In particular, Ubuntu has received harsh criticism from Debian developers in
> the past for pointing out that they are, in effect, contributors to the
> Ubuntu project.
That's because "contributor" has different connotations to "ori
On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 05:04:02PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> If you distribute binary images with a magazine and have something in
> that magazine saying "if you want the source write to with a
> photocopy of this specific text", everything is okay.
No more so than "if you want the source w
On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 12:15:48PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 07:51:30AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 05:04:02PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > If you distribute binary images with a magazine and have something in
&
On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 12:24:20PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> PS: Is it true that Ubuntu things about supplying a 3 year offer for
> source under 3b so derivates of ubuntu can go sourcelss?
A nice idea, to be sure, but it doesn't seem particularly helpful, unless
the derivative isn't mod
On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 02:49:34AM +, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> Hello, i thought Debian project was a big team. If people here don't
> want to work in a team, we're going nowhere.
Two words for you: Fred Brooks.
> I think that force is the wrong term, we should encourage and in some
> cases req
On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 07:41:46PM +0200, Fabio Tranchitella wrote:
> Hi Pierre,
> please don't Cc me, I read this list. :)
>
> Il giorno ven, 28/07/2006 alle 19.28 +0200, Pierre Habouzit ha scritto:
> > and that won't happen because I'm not very keen on leraning yet another
> > VCS, and that o
On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 12:54:39PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Anthony Towns wrote:
>
> > What if we introduced the concept of "area" maintenance? Like saying
> > "Matthew Garrett is part of our hardware support team, so can thus NMU
> > any package that needs changes to support that release
On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 04:16:53PM +, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> On 7/29/06, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 02:49:34AM +, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> >> Hello, i thought Debian project was a big team. If people here don't
>
On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 07:46:58PM +, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> On 7/29/06, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:16:53 +, Gustavo Franco
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >
> >> On 7/29/06, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PRO
PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:16:53 +, Gustavo Franco
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >>>
> >>> > On 7/29/06, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> >> On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 02:49:
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 06:35:57AM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> * Anthony Towns [Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:29:57 +1000]:
>
> > subscribe to the PTS
>
> ISTR a discussion about automatically subscribing NMUers to the PTS for
> the package, and dropping the subscription with the next upload of the
> pac
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 11:22:15AM -0400, Hubert Chan wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:56:10 +0200, Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > * Steve Langasek [Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:57:38 -0700]:
> >> Nor is it actually required. Any DD can delete an upload out of the
> >> delayed queue on gluck
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 10:28:44AM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote:
> Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 06:35:57AM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> >>
> >> ISTR a discussion about automatically subscribing NMUers to the PTS fo
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 10:38:44PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Frans Pop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060803 22:02]:
> > I'd prefer keeping PlanetDebian pure as a aggregator of personal blogs.
>
> Hm, ok. I can see your point, but I disagree (but of course, I'm biased).
>
> Anyways, if more DDs feel
On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 12:01:58AM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> Le Dim 20 F?vrier 2005 22:42, Goswin von Brederlow a ?crit :
> > Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >> It's a little OT, but I think that the upload mechanisms should be
> > >> enhanced a little to be able to *certify*
On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 12:24:49AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > NEW would still have to be processed by hand, though -- crypto notifications
> > still need to be sent, ...
>
> I still fail to see any
On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 08:23:52AM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> Le Lun 21 F?vrier 2005 00:16, Matthew Palmer a ?crit :
> > NEW would still have to be processed by hand, though -- crypto
> > notifications still need to be sent, and the protection provided by
> > two crap de
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 05:16:39PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Matthew Palmer wrote:
> >AFAIK, we don't notify for every new piece of software in the archive, just
> >those which would fall foul of the export restrictions.
>
> That's mistaken -- we automatically
On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 10:03:30AM +0200, Jutta Wrage wrote:
> After seeing the googlegroups spam in some of the debian mailing lists,
> I had a look into googlegroups and saw the meiling lists beeing fed
> into groups there. Is that a known fact and is it accepted?
>
> I am a bit astonished as
On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 01:21:04PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 01:12:43PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > I consider binary packages as extrem useful to check for dependency
> > changes etc,
>
> That can be done by having an archive of packages files alone.
>
> >
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 07:02:12PM +1000, Anand Kumria wrote:
> One process modification I would suggest is that rather than leaving
> packages in 'NEW queue limbo' if you are not able to reject or accept them
> after 2 months, you refer the package to the technical committee instead.
I think tha
On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 06:32:49PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.19.1544 +0200]:
> > > For what it's worth: how do you know they don't intercept the
> > > mail that your mail spool then sends out?
> >
> > Eventually you get a bounce with the
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 04:16:13PM -0400, Thompson-Laurin, Harriet wrote:
> Specifically, I am to find information regarding Debian regarding:
> Cost
How much does 7 CD-Rs cost down your way?
> Market share
Why? You should use something because it fits your needs, not someone
elses
[Apologies if you get this twice, I don't know if you're subscribed to
debian-project]
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 11:27:14AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi I am living in milwaukee,WI for last 6 years now. And thanks to friend
> of mine I got addicted to Linux. First I was using mandrake for la
Gus & Maggie said:
> My name is Roy Havens and I own a small business. Currently I run
> Windows XP Home but the browser I like to use is Mozilla. I am
> interested in migrating all of my computer to open source. The only
> thing that is preventing me from doing so is the MANY M$ programs I
> curr
Paul E Condon said:
[BTW, your comments won't get to the OP as they asked to be copied on any
replies]
> will work for many things, but probably not all. I use Turbo Tax on a
> Mac. I buy a new version each year because the tax laws are always
> changing. I don't know who would do the development o
On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 09:13:40PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I clicked on a link from seahorse.sourceforge.net (
> packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/seahorse.html ) in hopes of downloading
> seahorse for debian. Unfortunatly the link did not work and I was
> wondering if the file is still
On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 12:54:23PM +1100, Ben Burton wrote:
> > There is a chronic systemic harrassment in Debian, but I have not seen
> > women get more of it.
>
> I know I've said this some number of times already, but I'll say it again
> in just four lines so it's that much harder to miss.
>
>
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 01:11:32AM +0100, Philippe Strauss wrote:
> Dear Mr/Ms. Debian :)
Hey, we might have a knighted developer somewhere, and you don't want to
exclude them.
> Like probably many other users, I'm facing a growing pain to stay
> on debian stable due to the fact that things lik
On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 04:47:03PM -0500, Warren Duclos wrote:
> I really find your website impressive.
It would help if you would tell us exactly which website you're referring
to. I assume you're talking about http://www.debian.org/, or some site with
a debian.org suffix.
> Some of our student
On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 09:34:36AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> After some research we've found in the following packages we need to
> continue our planning phase:
>
> Apache 2.0;
> PHP 4.3.x;
> MSQL 4.0.2 or higher, because we need foreign keys with cascading UPDATE
> and DELETE, and row-l
On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 10:29:40PM +0200, J?r?me Marant wrote:
> Evidence. I would like to see evidence that Debian has not been giving
> equal rights to males and women over the past years.
The fact that our male / female participation ratio is much lower than even
the gender split in IT, let alo
On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 01:47:51PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, MJ Ray wrote:
> > I hope that people won't feed the
> > trolls and it results in debian doing something better to tackle
> > inequalities.
>
> What is left unexamined in all these discussions is why Debian (as a
On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 05:46:57PM -0700, Jonathan Walther wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 10:29:40AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> >On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 10:29:40PM +0200, J?r?me Marant wrote:
> >>Evidence. I would like to see evidence that Debian has not been giving
> &g
On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 11:00:08PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 10:29:40 +1000, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 10:29:40PM +0200, J?r?me Marant wrote:
> >> Evidence. I would like to see evidence that Debi
On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 10:47:45AM +0200, J?r?me Marant wrote:
> Selon Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 10:29:40PM +0200, J?r?me Marant wrote:
> > > Evidence. I would like to see evidence that Debian has not been giving
> > > equal r
On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 05:50:46PM -0700, Jonathan Walther wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 10:41:33AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> >>What is left unexamined in all these discussions is why Debian (as a
> >>project) should be doing anything to tackle inequalities?
> >
On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 10:56:49PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 10:41:33 +1000, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 01:47:51PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> >> Or is the contention that there is some barrier to i
On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 04:32:06PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 21:55:27 +1000, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 05:50:46PM -0700, Jonathan Walther wrote:
> >> On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 10:41:33AM +1000, Matthew Palm
On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 02:42:17PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> On 2004-08-07 13:11:55 +0100 Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >So you think that changing our culture to be less confrontational
> >would be
> >beneficial to encouraging participation by m
On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 09:38:53AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 22:11:55 +1000, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 10:56:49PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >> On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 10:41:33 +1000, Matthew Pa
On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 01:13:31PM -0700, Jonathan Walther wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 09:49:35PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> >On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 10:47:45AM +0200, J?r?me Marant wrote:
> >>Selon Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>> On Fri, Aug
On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 01:07:25PM -0700, Jonathan Walther wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 09:37:40PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> >>Don't assume there are stairs preventing the wheel-chaired person from
> >>getting onto the basketball court; SHOW THEM to us. T
On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 01:16:52PM -0700, Jonathan Walther wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 09:55:27PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> >>The burden of evidence is on you. I'd like to see your proofs.
> >
> >How about statements from the people who have decided not to
On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 12:54:29PM -0400, Christopher M. Hagar wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 21:43:06 +1000
> Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The culture of the project may be causing us to drive away Africans and
> > Hindus, yes. If so, I think we shou
On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 12:16:37AM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Aug 2004, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > As to the barriers to involvement in Debian by women, it's pretty obvious
> > that our gender participation ratio is decidedly different to that of the IT
> >
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 09:38:53AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Matthew Palmer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040808 11:10]:
> > From the 2004.04.05 version of the keyring, I count 927 unique people or
> > unknowns (there are several "might be people, might be 'bots'&quo
On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 05:00:26PM -0700, Robert Hoskins wrote:
> I would like to know if I could possibly resell your Debian Linux
But of course. See http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/info for information
specifically targetted at your situation, and http://www.debian.org/CD for
general informati
75 matches
Mail list logo
