Debian is about providing the best free operating system

2000-06-11 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
archive is certainly outside of the scope of Debians goals (otherwise one should wonder why point 5 was included in the social contract at all). Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' Debian http://www.debian.org Check Key server Marcus Brinkmann GNUhttp://w

Re: An ammendment (Re: Formal CFV: General Resolution to Abolish Non-Free)

2000-06-17 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
ction to support the social contract points 1 to 4 while being in favour of the GR. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' Debian http://www.debian.org Check Key server Marcus Brinkmann GNUhttp://www.gnu.orgfor public PGP Key [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROT

Re: On the lets-remove-nonfree-proposal

2000-07-02 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
from some place in the internet (take for example the Windows world, where people not only install software they download from Microsoft). In short, I think you are underestimating the intelligence of our users. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' Debian http://www.debian.

Re: On the lets-remove-nonfree-proposal

2000-07-03 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Am Mon, 03 Jul 2000 11:17:45 David N. Welton Sie: > On Sun, Jul 02, 2000 at 11:49:07PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > In short, I think you are underestimating the intelligence of our > > users. > > A few people at LinuxTag asked me if the updates to the ke

Re: On the lets-remove-nonfree-proposal

2000-07-19 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Am Mit, 19 Jul 2000 12:36:39 Hamish Moffatt Sie: > On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 02:49:11AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > For the same reason that the existing Debian mob dictates why you may not > > upload certain packages to main. What the Project decides to do, we do. > > Perhaps GR supporters

Re: On the lets-remove-nonfree-proposal

2000-07-19 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Am Mit, 19 Jul 2000 16:04:57 Hamish Moffatt Sie: > I personally see two goals for Debian: > 1. Produce a high quality, open source UNIX system. > 2. Introduce people to open source ideals. Debian was founded long before the Open Source movement hit the market. Personally, I value freedom over qu

Re: On the lets-remove-nonfree-proposal

2000-07-19 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
`Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' Debian http://www.debian.org Check Key server Marcus Brinkmann GNUhttp://www.gnu.orgfor public PGP Key [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]PGP Key ID 36E7CD09 http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ [EMAIL PROTECTED

Fear the new maintainer process

2000-07-26 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hi Taketoshi Sano, I understand you are doing the best you can, and my answer is by no means personal. It is directed to the project. I can't help to be extremly worried about the new maintainer procedure. On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 01:31:22PM +0900, Taketoshi Sano wrote: > (There are several appl

Re: Fear the new maintainer process

2000-07-26 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Am Mit, 26 Jul 2000 14:59:12 Joop Stakenborg Sie: > If you are > not happy with the guidelines we have set up, why don't you start a discussion > on nm-discuss? > Marcus wrote: > > I criticized the new procedure as soon as it was outlined by Wichert > > Ackermann, and never received an answer t

Re: Fear the new maintainer process

2000-07-26 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Am Mit, 26 Jul 2000 15:11:08 Mark Brown Sie: > On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 12:57:40PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 01:31:22PM +0900, Taketoshi Sano wrote: > > > > (There are several applicants who > > > does not respond at all, or hold

Re: Fear the new maintainer process

2000-07-26 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Am Mit, 26 Jul 2000 15:56:10 Mark Brown Sie: > On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 03:23:06PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > Am Mit, 26 Jul 2000 15:11:08 Mark Brown Sie: > > > > It's not about the entry in the queue - it's about the time it takes the > > > applic

Re: Fear the new maintainer process

2000-07-26 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
I am answering both replies in one mail. On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 11:13:26AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 09:08:23AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > > > On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > > > I want to repeat: The applican

Re: Fear the new maintainer process

2000-07-26 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 11:57:58AM -0400, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 05:48:26PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > And WHAT makes you think that a delay is a sign of "limited interest"? > > How else can a lack of reply be interpreted? Note we a

Re: Fear the new maintainer process

2000-07-26 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 11:58:16AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > > How can this "holding up" happen? And if it indeed can happen, this > > is an inherent problem of the process, and the process should be > > changed to allow for such delays without holding other people up. > > > > They don't need to

Mind the new maintainer process

2000-07-26 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 12:57:40PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > I can't help to be extremly worried about the new maintainer > procedure. I am still, but in this particular case I obviously overreacted. I was projecting my grief with the projects social development on a sing

Re: [nm-admin] Identification step in the current scheme (Re: Fear the new maintainer process)

2000-08-01 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 01:07:24PM -0400, Gopal Narayanan wrote: > Membership is a privilege, The privilege to work, or what? Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' Debian http://www.debian.org Check Key server Marcus Brinkmann GNUhttp://www.gnu.orgfo

Re: [nm-admin] Identification step in the current scheme (Re: Fear the new maintainer process)

2000-08-01 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 08:06:55PM +0200, Nils Lohner wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Marcus Brinkmann writes: > >On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 01:07:24PM -0400, Gopal Narayanan wrote: > >> Membership is a privilege, > > > >The privilege to work, or w

Re: [nm-admin] Identification step in the current scheme (Re: Fear the new maintainer process)

2000-08-01 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 08:21:37PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > I am rather scared by a statement that effectively assumes that being part > of Debian is a "privilege" that needs to be protected by people who > probably want to abuse it.[1] The only privileges y

Re: [nm-admin] Identification step in the current scheme (Re: Fear the new maintainer process)

2000-08-01 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hello, On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 08:53:36PM +0200, Nils Lohner wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Marcus Brinkmann writes: > >On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 08:06:55PM +0200, Nils Lohner wrote: > >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Marcus Brinkmann writes: > >&

Re: [nm-admin] Identification step in the current scheme (Re: Fear the new maintainer process)

2000-08-02 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
n always ask if he has a photo available. "Show me how you flame and I tell you who you are." :) Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' Debian http://www.debian.org Check Key server Marcus Brinkmann GNUhttp://www.gnu.orgfor public PGP Key [EMAIL P

Re: Proposal: incremental release process (the package pool)

1999-10-28 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
cal ftp hierarchy anymore. We would have one pool for all packages, and a bunch of files describing which package/version belongs to a certain distribution. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' Debian http://www.debian.org Check Key server Marcus Brinkmann GNUhttp:/

Re: Proposal: incremental release process (the package pool)

1999-10-29 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
of Free Software is Free Software. The End and the Means are the same." -- Craig Sanders Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Proposal: incremental release process (the package pool)

1999-10-29 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Oct 28, 1999 at 10:39:21AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > This makes me think about dropping the symlinks completely. > > > > So we can have a real, physical pool of any sort, and all distributions are > > simply a packages file with

Re: Proposal: incremental release process (the package pool)

1999-11-01 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
t does fail on several issues already. Instead patching it, we should consider changing it drastically internally. I think the advantages in future maintaining are worth the one time pain resulting from a change. -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' Debian http://www.debian.org

Re: Proposed change to Debian constitution

1999-11-02 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
ot;The purpose of Free Software is Free Software. The End and the Means are the same." -- Craig Sanders Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Proposed change to Debian constitution

1999-11-03 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Nov 03, 1999 at 09:42:48AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Tue, Nov 02, 1999 at 04:22:20PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > Assuming there are issues beside the technical one, something I am not > > convinced of at all. This has been beaten to death on another list t

Re: Proposed change to Debian constitution

1999-11-03 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
e have the constitution for. It's what we are currently trying to do. Thanks, Marcus "Debian does not own us, but we don't own Debian either." -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' Debian http://www.debian.org Check Key server Marcus Brinkmann GNUhttp:

Debian Law... come to Debian country!

1999-11-11 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hi, Constitution, Immigrant restriction ("new maintainer"), Usage Policy, ... ... is this where it leads to? Are we going to tight ourselve in a magnitude of rules and laws, to be enforced by soldiers who work under the regime of a king (beheaded annually)? Are we constantly fixing things which

Re: Stop Debian/FreeBSD

1999-11-20 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
y (I think), but don't make sense on the Hurd. Bootloader will need to be recompiled even on the same host CPU, although they likely work "over' any OS etc... Every port has its own list of packages which are in some way classified incorrectly. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptia

Re: Stop Debian/FreeBSD

1999-11-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
ool idea. Please see http://www.debian.org/~brinkmd/arch-handling.txt it's a bit old, but the core reflects still my idea. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' Debian http://www.debian.org Check Key server Marcus Brinkmann GNUhttp://www.gnu.orgfor publ

Re: Debian FreeBSD

1999-11-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
ing about emulated binaries? Port glibc to freebsd, and use it > > natively. > > You still need syscall emulation, which is what the BSD linux-compat > stuff does. For many software, you won't, I think. Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' Debian http://www.debian

Re: Stop Debian/FreeBSD

1999-11-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hi, On Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 09:05:29AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > On Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 02:41:13PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > syscalls are a different issue. Software using syscalls can be declared > > as such, and only installed on systems that provide such

Re: Stop Debian/FreeBSD

1999-11-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
b is no Egyptian god.' Debian http://www.debian.org Check Key server Marcus Brinkmann GNUhttp://www.gnu.orgfor public PGP Key [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]PGP Key ID 36E7CD09 http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Stop Debian/FreeBSD

1999-11-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
yptian god.' Debian http://www.debian.org Check Key server Marcus Brinkmann GNUhttp://www.gnu.orgfor public PGP Key [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]PGP Key ID 36E7CD09 http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Stop Debian/FreeBSD

1999-11-22 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 10:01:32AM +0100, Piotr Roszatycki wrote: > On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > I am not sure about BSD. It depends if you really are going to use FreeBSDs > > libc or glibc. What I said applies mostly to the latter case. If you are > > g

Re: Discussing the DMUP

2000-04-25 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 03:12:40 Philippe Troin wrote: > Of course, we have nothing better to do than playing the Debian > Democracy Game. Indeed. For those who wonder, the game is also called Nomic and the rules are available at: http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/nomic.htm Marcus

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-11-30 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
hat you can't copyright legal text like this) whenever you want. Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' Debian http://www.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann GNUhttp://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de

Re: [PROPOSAL] Full text of GPL must be included

2000-12-01 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
L, the preamble and the footer. Everything before the first ^L and after the last ^L to be precise. Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' Debian http://www.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann GNUhttp://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de

Re: RFC: Changing the NM system

2000-12-17 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
e not exploited the possibilities here, and swinging the social club (the one from the stoneage) will not solve any perceived (or real) problems. Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' Debian http://www.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann GNUhttp://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de

Re: RFC: Changing the NM system

2000-12-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
still had 600 RC even without accepting new maintainers at all for one year. There are plenty of technical solutions to our maintenance problems, no need to panic about new maintainers. Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' Debian http://www.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann

Re: RFC: Changing the NM system

2000-12-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
ly. If you were consistent, you would request that every developer is expelled annually and has to reapply. This would make sure that everyone is still live and interested. And of course, I would love to see Branden Robinsons answers to the quiz test. Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' De

Re: RFC: Changing the NM system

2000-12-19 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 11:14:22AM +0900, Taketoshi Sano wrote: > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on Sun, 17 Dec 2000 22:57:46 +0100, > Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > And every developer has to answer such a randomly gnerated questionary four > > time

Re: [platform] My little self-pumping/ego-trip/self-righteous speech :)

2001-02-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
on of ftp-master and the confusion that arose with our sponsor of master (novare) was a jolly mess and should have been handled more carefully? Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' Debian http://www.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann GNUhttp://www.gnu.org[E

Re: [platform] My little self-pumping/ego-trip/self-righteous speech :)

2001-02-22 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
ot to troll you, but to see how you think about the situation nowadays. Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' Debian http://www.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann GNUhttp://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de

Re: Project name

2001-08-09 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 04:17:27PM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: > On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 04:06:45PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > No, the Hurd is only the user-extensible operating system > > and as such potentially universal (but in that even more so then Linux > > ever

Re: Project name

2001-08-09 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 10:48:22AM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: > On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 03:30:38PM +0200, Lars Bahner wrote: > > From http://www.debian.org/index.html > > > > Debian GNU/Linux -- The Universal Operating System > > Like I said. That's one of the OSes we produce. It's our front r

Re: kernel-* package names

2002-02-07 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
n god.' Debian http://www.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann GNUhttp://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de

Re: irc.debian.org

2002-08-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
is hosted by neither OPN nor OFTC...? Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

Re: Copying and distributing Debian

2002-08-18 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
the subject, or have a discussion round. More information about free software is available at http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/ Thanks, Marcus -- `Rhubarb is no Egyptian god.' GNU http://www.gnu.org[EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcus Brinkmann The Hurd http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.marcus-brinkmann.de/

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2002-09-19 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
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