h.
A number of message sent to the secretary are discarded
without comment. Does the project really want the secretary to be
responding viagra ads?
manoj
--
"Luke, I'm yer father, eh. Come over to the dark side, you hoser."
Dave Thomas, "Strange Brew"
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said:
> [Manoj Srivastava]
>> A number of message sent to the secretary are discarded without
>> comment. Does the project really want the secretary to be
>> responding viagra ads?
> We
e Lord of Entropy.
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off the face of the earth, or is no longer with Debian?
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Convention is the ruler of all. Pindar
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T
heer absence of even a modicum of
thought.
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--
Tact, n.: The unsaid part of what you're thinking.
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To UNS
t a minute?" two programmers passing
in the hall
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On Sat, 28 May 2005 11:47:50 +0100, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (va, manoj)> wrote:
>> Err, perhaps apply some common sense? Does anyone really doubt that
>> the stable release manager is missing? Or is no longer involved in
On Sat, 28 May 2005 17:05:34 +0100, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (va, manoj)> wrote:
>> >> Why can't interested parties pone the consultant directly?
>> > Expense. Why can't consultants send in their email
s our users the
freedom to modify and further distribute the renamed binary; but not
renaming robs them of this freedom, then our course is clear.
manoj
--
"Survey says..." Richard Dawson, weenie, on "Family Feud"
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://ww
to an ISP that provides them with
a real mail service, intead of sometimes delivering legitimate mail
to them.
manoj
--
Bacon's not the only thing that's cured by hanging from a string.
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ought to fix their email setup (surely a
necesity in this day and age). I am sure there are ISP's around that
provide a real SMTP service.
manoj
--
A hermit is a deserter from the army of humanity.
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/>
to spend his time, and
more critical tasks to perform, than to jump through hoops to please
people who just drop mail without paying any attention to content.
manoj
--
"If truth is beauty, how come no one has their hair done in the
library?" Lily Tomlin
Manoj Srivastava <[EM
ected to abide by it. That is destructive to our
Branden> spirit of community.
manoj
--
The human animal differs from the lesser primates in his passion for
lists of "Ten Best". Allen Smith
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.
Size is the reason I think we need to create checks and balances
for assigned power (much though it galls old timers that the project
has sunk too such depths). I'll elaborate on this in another message.
manoj
--
Those who claim the dead never return to life haven't eve
devel called "Woody
Andreas> Progress":
Andreas> Andreas Schuldei> In fact we ultimatly exist to do them [the users]
Andreas>good and please them.
Andreas> Manoj Srivastava> Bullshit.
>> From the same thread:
Andreas> Manoj Srivas
>>"Andreas" == Andreas Voegele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andreas> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I am not sure that you understand what the project is. The
>> project is not a company, with a mandated party line; the project is
guage your package is written in, it is highly
unlikely your stewardship of that package is goging to be anything
but mediocre.
I would hope most developers would realize this, and do the
right thing
manoj
--
"To steal from a thief is not theft. It is merely irony."
sion period, be moved over to debian-vote@lists.debian.org,
which was designed to serve such a purpose.
manoj
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I don't do it for the money. Donald Trump, Art of the Deal
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nal proposer.
manoj
- --
Let him choose out of my files, his projects to accomplish. Shakespeare,
"Coriolanus"
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s one
day at a time." Dean Acheson
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>>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 03:46:17PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> > Apropos to that, Policy proper contains elements that ought
>> > not to be in there, but remain as vestigial documentation of dpkg
>>
>>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
Anthony> On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 06:03:23PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> Debian policy should be the minimalistic set of rules that
>> packages follow, and expect other packages to foolow too, in order to
>> have
and extentions. Most extentions, when the become popular, would be
candidates for inclution into the core interface, when the dpkg
authors feel the interface has stabilized and would be unlikely to
change.
manoj
--
Unix is the worst operating system; except for all others.
I would not mind helping out, especially the parts that need
be resurrected from the policy and old packaging manuals.
manoj
--
The bhikkhu who experiences great joy, and has faith in the religion
of the Buddha, will attain the place of peace, the satisfaction of
stilling th
ould be part of the dpkg
spec (in other words, the implementing the core interface is a design
goal of dpkg, but dpkg is otherwise unrestrained -- and become usable
beyond debian).
manoj
--
If you only have a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a
nail. Maslow
Manoj Srivastava <
for other intrinsic interfaces that packages face
(the menu system, the init scripts, etc).
manoj
--
Good salesmen and good repairmen will never go hungry. R.E. Schenk
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cy/packages/distribution. They are
Luca> people, staffs, working officially for Debian.
I tend to agree.
manoj
--
... indifference is a militant thing ... when it goes away it leaves
smoking ruins, where lie citizens bayonetted through the throat. It
is not a children's pa
ns to be added to the core set, at your discretion, when you
think it has become a part of the standard interface debian packages
have to the packaging system(s).
manoj
--
I'm not prejudiced, I hate everyone equally.
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.
>>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
Anthony> On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 09:02:24PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> >>"Adam" == Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Adam> We(Wichert and I) implement features that users want, when we
Adam>
it would take a fire ant to drill a hole through a
dill pickle, if the length-girth ratio of the ant to the pickle were
98.17:1. GENERAL KNOWLEDGE Describe the Universe. Give three
examples.
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see if I can annotate the rules files and
ancillary maintainer scripts to be easier to follow. Sometime this
week.
manoj
--
One organism, one vote.
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>>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
Anthony> On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 05:19:09PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> >>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
Anthony> The real question is whether maintainers are meant to build
Anthony> using the fe
as
follows." "What does Crustimoney Proseedcake mean?" said End-user.
"For I am an End-user of Very Little Brain, and long words bother
me." "It means the Thing to Do." "As long as it means that, I don't
mind," said End-user humbly. Chris M
ss this means that one should not telnet to port
119, and paste large amounts of text either.
manoj
--
I can't mate in captivity. Gloria Steinem, on why she has never
married.
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g to fake it. Finagle's Tenth Law: No matter
what the result someone is always eager to misinterpret it.
Finagle's Eleventh Law: No matter what occurs, someone believes it
happened according to his pet theory.
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es for
temporary expediency ought to know better.
manoj
--
About the time we think we can make ends meet, somebody moves the
ends. Herbert Hoover
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se. Debian does not use
NNTP for the project. Donors should not have to provide the service,
really, since it is unlikely to be used directly for project related
work. If a donor has objected to providing sysadmin/bandwidth, and
that is what prompted the DMUP, it is enough.
ma
fine.
Well, to each whatever windmills they wish to tilt at.
manoj
--
The early worm gets the bird.
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ere is a distinction.
manoj
--
"I can't face the world in the morning. I must have coffee before I
can speak." Joseph Cotton in Shadow of a Doubt
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y, but first C programs tend to look a lot worse than
first programs in any other language (maybe except for fortran, but
then I suspect all fortran programs look like `firsts') Olaf Kirch
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>>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Raul> On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 09:57:01PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> Cost has little to do with free as the DFSG defines it, so
>> this is a bit of a red herring. May one distribute modified
he passer-by obliged, and the string
re-entered the bar. "May I have a beer, please?" it asked the
bartender. The barkeep set a beer in front of the string, then
suddenly stopped. "Hey, aren't you the string I just threw out of
here?" "No, I'm a frayed knot.&q
inally figured out why airports make you walk so far out to get
to your plane. It's their way of giving your luggage a head start.
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eat cost by the Poles since 1944. David Phillips,
SUNY at Buffalo, about establishing a gateway from EARN (European
Academic Research Network) to Poland
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ars ago. "What is the 'Body of a rock'?" he was
asked. In answer, Musashi summoned a pupil of his and bid him kill
himself by slashing his abdomen with a knife. Just as the pupil was
about to comply, the Master stayed his hand, saying, "That is the
'Body
is written, and not
necessarily dictated from on high.
manoj
--
"Most of the dogmatic religions have exhibited a perverse talent for
taking the wrong side on the most important concepts in the material
universe, from the structure of the solar system to the origin of
man."
impression that people have that important
business in the project gets conducted behind closed doors by cigar
chomping old boys of the cabal. So please stand up and be counted,
people.
manoj
--
The question is, why are politicians so eager to be president? What
is it about th
and your success is assured.
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recommendation of the Chairman of the Technical Committee
Hmm. Joint? with whom?
+A *DRAFT* recommendation of the Chairman of the Technical Committee.
There.
manoj
--
Dishonor will not trouble me, once I am dead. Euripides
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>>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
Anthony> On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 01:37:19PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> >>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
Anthony> Given no evidence to assume that it is, though, maybe we
Anthony> shouldn
onger form of the constant. This
also simplifies modifying the program, should the value of pi
change. FORTRAN manual for Xerox Computers
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>>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ian> Manoj Srivastava writes ("Re: why Ian Jackson won't discuss the
"disputes" document draft with me"):
Ian> ...
>> I posit then that there is no indication that these are
>&g
t; put together and post, then I'll assume that there's nothing much that
Ian> can be done to improve it, and I'll just go back to the tech ctte and
Ian> see if they want to vote in favour of it.
Wonderful. Then a document that should come from the community,
about et
>>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Raul> On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 01:27:23PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> Can I too start writing up documents and claim that they ar4e
>> joint recommendations of the Technical committee? Since we are
ields to the temptation of denying
himself a pleasure. Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
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s also happy to help resolve
Ian> disputes over individual bug reports, you should not refer a matter to
Ian> the Committee until you have tried to explore the issue yourselves.
Ian> When this has been done, the bug report logs should contain detailed
Ian> description of the probl
>>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
Anthony> On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 11:09:41PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Raul> Yes, of course you can.
>> I think that would be wrong, to imply that a bunch of people
>> had signed on to the draft document without as
>>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
Anthony> On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 01:52:47AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> >>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
>> When I read a draft with a bunch of co-authors names on the
>> authors list, I
Hi,
This is a joint draft message from the release manager and
Manoj Srivastava
Of course it is not, really. I would hope that all right
minded people would agree and sign on to the holy task of eradicating
all non emacs editors from the face of the planet.
But
ed technique for conflict resolution that
you are following now?
manoj
--
Happiness is good health and a bad memory. Ingrid Bergman
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>>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
Anthony> On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 02:34:11PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> This is a joint draft message from the release manager and
>> Manoj Srivastava
Anthony> The phrase Ian used was "DRAFT joint mes
on developers to an
inferior position when it comes to our BTS conventions.
Acting on a preconceived notion of the class a person may
belong to, rather than the merits of the persons position and
viewpoint, is fundamentally flawed.
manoj
--
Imagination is more important than
ng ``flame
insurence''. Under this arrangement, if one of our policy holders is
flamed, we will cancel the offending article and flame the flamer, to
a crisp. The TETflame flaming representatives include: Richard
Sexton, Oleg Kisalev, Diane Holt, Trish O'Tauma, Dave Hill, Greg
>>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
Anthony> On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 09:38:36PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> Since they are not derived from the one true editor. Apart from
>> being a name calling moron, you have no humour gene.
Anthony> Oddly en
ty to actuallycome up with a
technique that appears to work.
I am praying for us.
manoj
--
Art is Nature speeded up and God slowed down. Chazal
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to go into more
details, and whether I am being a moron (hi aj).
manoj
--
Sorry for mailing this article, I've obviously made a typo (168!=186)
that's the price for being up all night and doing some "quick" checks
before you go to bed Herbert Rosmanith
&
AND A HALF HOURS!!!
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>>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
Anthony> On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 10:21:01PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> >>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
Anthony> On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 09:38:36PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> >> Si
>>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
Anthony> On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 02:09:44AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> >>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
>> No. That is improbable enough to be funny. It takes a tongue
>> in cheek swip
against every effort to liberate the body
and mind of man. It has been, at all times and everywhere, the
habitual and incorrigible defender of bad governments, bad laws, bad
social theories, bad institutions. It was, for centuries, an
apologist for slavery, as it was the apologist for the divine right
e at hand.
Colin> (Let's please have this argument on -project if you wish to
Colin> continue it. -devel is a technical list.)
Sure.
manoj
--
Out of sight is out of mind. Arthur Clough
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he score was tied
and the basses were loaded with two out.
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ece of string around the page of the score before the bass
>> cue. As the basses grew more and more inebriated, two of them fell
>> asleep. The conductor grew quite nervous (he was very concerned about
>> the pitch) because it was the bottom of the ninth; the score was tied
God.
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>> On 24 Mar 2003 15:17:52 -0800,
>> David N Welton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> [ Please leave me CC'ed ]
> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> My original point was that people who do not actually exercise
>> their franchise
itten in the Debian Free Software Guidelines), and that's not the
> duty of an operating sytem.
Why do you think that the bible does not belong to an OS, but
games do? Or fortune cookies? Or vi?
manoj
--
I'm a GENIUS! I want to dispute sentence structure with SUSAN
manoj
--
I have already given two cousins to the war and I stand ready to
sacrifice my wife's brother. Artemus Ward
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m answering email from a plane
32k feet up there.
Assuming unlimited internet connectivity leaves people in
third world countries and on dialup out in the cold.
manoj
--
Your present plans will be successful.
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ustomer is willing to
bear the cost, I'll do whatever he wants of me, to the best of my
ability.
If you are not willing to pay for the debian developers, you
can't pull the "But we are customers!! We reigh supreme!!" card.
> It would be that simple. It would be
nux.
And that is probably a wise decison on their part.
manoj
--
lisp, v.: To call a spade a thpade.
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at is what they want to do.
manoj
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How's it going in those MODULAR LOVE UNITS??
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portant get down and work at it. So far, no one seems
to have taken the hook -- but exhorting other people to do the work
rarely, in my experience, works.
manoj
--
"When marriage is outlawed, only outlaws will have inlaws." Jef
Poskanzer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Manoj Srivast
simply a revolutionary new way of understanding the
behavior of numbers. Just as Einstein observed that space was not an
absolute, but depended on the observer's movement in space, and that
time was not an absolute, but depended on the observer's movement in
time, so it is now realized that numb
t by Wilder and Brackett, and to play with Paramount's two
superstars, Gary Cooper and Claudette Colbert, and to be beaten up by
both of them! David Niven, "Bring On the Empty Horses"
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the work; and sits separately from the work itself. We are
also required, under the law, to distribute the license as such, or
lose our right to distribute the works at all.
manoj
--
"You tried it just for once, found it alright for kicks, but now you
find out you have a habit that stick
isit
http://people.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/Position_Statement.xhtml>
Any comments, feedback, suggested wording, and proof reading
appreciated.
manoj
--
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Bert Lantz
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On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 16:06:20 +0100, Frank Lichtenheld
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Some comments:
Thanks for the feedback. I have incorporated your suggestions,
and am uploading the changed version.
manoj
--
The Korean War must have been fun.
Manoj Srivastava
manoj
--
There is no remedy for sex but more sex.
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:35:39 -0500, Alfie Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Same thing, but longer comments. "Abandon all hope..."
> On 2 Nov 2003, at 13:10, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> Given the Debian keyrings (available from keyring.debian.org), you
>> c
lanation; it is easier to extrapolate to any size of
body.
manoj
--
"Bill Gates says no matter how much more power we can supply, he'll
develop some really exciting software that will bring the machine to
its knees." Intel VP David House, In _EE_Times_, 16 October
such. I'll try and be extra "unscary", to the
best of my ability to do so.
manoj
who is probably gonna be labelled misogynist now
--
Satellite Safety Tip #14: If you see a bright streak in the sky coming
at you, duck.
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/>
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you're not. Asking a totally hackerish community to act
> differently is just going to end in tears.
Yup. We are just big bags of dripping hacker testosterone, and
our beetling brows shall never allow us to change. Faugh.
manoj
--
If you want to know what god thinks of mon
onal and correct in the first place about Debian being
> unnecessarily hostile.
Indeed. For once I am ashamed to be a member of such a narrow
minded, bigoted group.
Helen, please accept my apologies; we are not quite grown up
enough to be able to interact with women ye
rone here.
Hell, probably the only thing that can get through your
neanderthalic skull.
manoj
thoughroghly disgusted
--
We are preparing to think about contemplating preliminary work on
plans to develop a schedule for producing the 10th Edition of the Unix
Programmers Manual. And
if you
had ever used debian lesbian. so have yah?
20:46 tam: that's only a male fantasy
--
"To vacillate or not to vacillate, that is the question ... or is it?"
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 06:17:20 -0500, Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 11:06:40PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> Indeed. For once I am ashamed to be a member of such a narrow
>> minded, bigoted group.
>>
>> Helen, please acce
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 16:51:28 +, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On 2004-03-04 16:04:15 +0000 Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> You should read the following chapter, that addresses particularly
>> your brand of protest:
>> http://ww
--
Sam: What do you know there, Norm? Norm: How to sit. How to drink.
Want to quiz me? Cheers, Loverboyd Sam: Hey, how's life treating you
there, Norm? Norm: Beats me. ... Then it kicks me and leaves me for
dead. Cheers, Loverboyd Woody: How would a beer feel, Mr. Peterson?
Norm: Pret
tatrement, you, as
a woman, would obviously know what experiences women face in Debian.
manoj
--
I'm glad I was not born before tea. Sidney Smith (1771-1845)
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On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 09:25:49 +, Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 09:37:43AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 02:07:06AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
>> > On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 10:04:15AM -0600, Manoj Sriva
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