Re: again - timeservers

2003-02-11 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 09:22:09PM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > > Thanks for your reply. > > Is there a way I could find those server admins? > > They are probably reachable through the debian-mirrors@lists.debian.org > mailing list. No. That mailing list is not to be used for requests like thes

Re: A Debian Who is Who

2003-02-16 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 03:58:30PM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote: > > JB> The thing is: The debian structure is not very transparent. > > > > Check out http://www.debian.org/intro/organization > > Ah, didn't know about this page. (Which is probably because there is no > link to it on www.debian.o

Re: A Debian Who is Who

2003-02-16 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 10:46:23AM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote: > > > > Check out http://www.debian.org/intro/organization > > > > > > Ah, didn't know about this page. (Which is probably because there is no > > > link to it on www.debian.org/intro) > > > > Uh, there is. > > is there a link to [1]

Re: A Debian Who is Who

2003-02-16 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 05:50:14PM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote: > > > It is going in the direction, but it only lists the names, and nothing > > > about them. A link to the db.debian.org enty would be useful, and the > > > db.d.org page should be extended (for example homepage, country, > > > des

Re: Debian Linux Deutsch

2003-03-08 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 11:06:20AM -0600, David Moreno Garza wrote: > > Hallo, wollte nur sagen, dass ich gerade Versuche mit Knoppix mache, als > > jahrelanger Gates Jünger wollte ich halt auch mal Linux testen, daher > > wollte ich das Handbuch für Debian downloaden, aber oh Schreck, wenn ich > >

Re: IPv6 Debian mirror!

2003-03-12 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 12:21:47AM +, Miguel Ramos wrote: > Just for curiosity, is this the first IPv6 mirror of debian? No :) -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness.

Re: IMPORTANT/URGENT - PLEASE REMOVE MY NAME FROM YOUR SITE!

2003-03-12 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 02:25:33PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > In this case I think removing the mail is the correct thing to do - it's > > spam, it's potentially damaging and it's not his fault. However, could > > That would be grounds to remove the first email, but we wouldn't

Re: IMPORTANT/URGENT - PLEASE REMOVE MY NAME FROM YOUR SITE!

2003-03-12 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 02:25:33PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > In this case I think removing the mail is the correct thing to do - it's > > spam, it's potentially damaging and it's not his fault. > > That would be grounds to remove the first email, but we wouldn't remove the > en

Re: IMPORTANT/URGENT - PLEASE REMOVE MY NAME FROM YOUR SITE!

2003-03-12 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 07:34:29PM +0100, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote: > And what it's the point on removing this? There are more Debian lists > archives than the one hosted by Debian itself. Yes, we can't fix this person's problem but we can rid our list archive of a bunch of crap that should

Re: Molba

2003-03-28 Thread Josip Rodin
[newbie question in Croatian, redirecting] On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 09:49:26AM +0100, FLP wrote: > Molim telefonski broj za pitanja u svezi redirekcije IP adrese. Tako nesto ne postoji, a jezik ove mailing liste je engleski. Kako bi dobili pomoc na hrvatskom jeziku, mozete poslati e-mail na [EMAIL

Re: Debian merchandise.

2003-04-10 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 03:21:38PM +0200, Erik Terpstra wrote: > Sorry if this is off-topic on this list, I just subscribed to make the > following suggestion: (please forward to the relevant list if off-topic) > > For some time I have been looking for Debian posters or coffee mugs to > decorate

Re: amavis

2003-05-31 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 10:57:49AM +0200, Victor OYETOLA wrote: > I can't see the directory pool/main/a/amavis/ on download page of any > debian site archive for downloading amavis-milter_20020517-25_i386. There's amavisd-new and amavis-ng, but no amavis, at least not any more. Where did you f

Re: Spam/UBE/UCE/Virus/Scam from your system. [Debian-project, GTFJLfzXatvTlhXatTMfaBTgzXUgBvjheOQQUqNVziNLpLMzvB]

2003-06-19 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 11:57:27PM +0200, Michael Jacob wrote: > However, as far as I see, your bounce should [not] have been addressed to > [me]. Indeed, the spam really originated at 66.191.246.16. whois says that this range of addresses belongs to "Charter Communications". This paragraph from

Re: spam sent to debian.org addresses

2003-06-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:35:27PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Many of our mailinglists are virtually unuseable due to the spam volume. BTW, just in case anyone's wondering about the recent spam flurry, that's due to a bug on lists.debian.org that's still being worked on. -- 2. That which c

Re: spam sent to debian.org addresses

2003-07-11 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 10:14:15PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > > Many of our mailinglists are virtually unuseable due to the spam volume. > > BTW, just in case anyone's wondering about the recent spam flurry, that's > due to a bug on lists.debian.org that's still

Bug#97671: this old thing again

2003-07-25 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 03:43:06PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > merge 97671 143825 > severity normal > tag 97671 + help upstream > thanks > > Unless the Release Manager intends to force (at least) the following > packages to play by the same rules ostensibly being enforced against > XFree86: >

Re: Founding moment for Debian

2003-08-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 12:10:30PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > > > I'm still looking for a single message (or other verifiably-dated > > > document) that marks the "let's start Debian" from Ian Murdock. > > > > See here: > > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=CBusDD.MIK%40unix.portal.com&oe=UTF-8

Re: Founding moment for Debian

2003-08-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 01:15:10PM -0500, Cesar Mendoza wrote: > It is funny to see that the first message about Debian contains the word > flamewar on it. That means we were cursed from the beginning? If you look at the message without the "gplain" output setting, you'll notice that there were no

Re: Founding moment for Debian

2003-08-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 04:47:23PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > > > I think this kind of historical document deserves noting in the > > > Debian "history" pages; should I submit a bug report about that? > > > > No, because I already committed it in the project-history document CVS > > :) > > Excell

Re: Releases and planned availability

2003-08-24 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 09:55:16AM -0700, J. Grincho wrote: > Is there somekind of visibility on the planned dates > for the Debian releases? Is there a way of obtaining > indicative target dates? Is there a way for a layman > to accelerate the process and eventually help? No, I'm afraid there's n

software patent thing in the european parliament

2003-08-26 Thread Josip Rodin
Hi, I'd place a link on our front page to the european software patent protest web page. Nothing flashy, but visible. Comments, objections? -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness.

Re: software patent thing in the european parliament

2003-08-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 01:25:56PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > I'd place a link on our front page to the european software patent protest > web page. Nothing flashy, but visible. Comments, objections? Done now. -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness.

Re: the presence of GNU FDL-licensed works in sarge

2003-08-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 02:34:37PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > Given there's more ambiguity in whether to apply the DFSG to > > documentation than there is in whether the GFDL passes the DFSG, it > > seemed most sensible just to exempt documentation from the DFSG for > > sarge; so that's the

Re: Trusted Debian/Adamantix

2003-09-09 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 02:50:52AM +1000, Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader wrote: > First, many people are not aware that Debian is a trademark. I have > therefore asked the webmasters to add a trademark statement to the footer > of our web site and this was done on 2003-07-19. This prob

trademark committee

2003-09-20 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 09:58:14AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > >While we're intentionally trying to keep the numbers [low?] and the > >involvement of members high feel free to write to Greg about joining > >the list. > > I am concerned that it appears to be working in secret, which is different > to mo

Re: FSF has stopped linking to Debian website

2003-09-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 02:23:37PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: [Subject: FSF has stopped linking to Debian website] And in other news, nobody cares. -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness.

Re: FSF has stopped linking to Debian website

2003-09-27 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 08:26:29AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > > [Subject: FSF has stopped linking to Debian website] > > > > And in other news, nobody cares. > > Well, I do care when somebody who's quite visible in the Free Software > scene [...] > Followups should probably go to gnu.misc.

Re: Suggestion

2003-09-27 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 12:27:55AM +0200, Pedro M. wrote: > I suggest include information about dual installations, this is, windows > and debian. You might be interested in reading the Installation Manual, particularly the section 3.6 "Pre-Partitioning for Multi-Boot Systems". -- 2. That w

Re: how to download

2003-09-27 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 01:45:51AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > >> > > >Please don't send HTML mail to a list! > > Why not using /usr/bin/html2text ? Sure, it can be worked around, but in general it's bad practice. Adding HTML doesn't contribute anything much to these kinds of messages. --

Re: compress

2003-09-27 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Sep 25, 2003 at 02:08:39PM +0400, ? wrote: > HOW to find Mike Goldman. HERE it is a lot of namesakes. It is > connected about algorithm by the theory of a compression. > debian-project@lists.debian.org This person is trying to use -project archive to pollute Google searches?

Re: trademark committee

2003-10-06 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 02:40:06PM +1000, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > > > I am concerned that it appears to be working in secret, which is > > > different to most of Debian. I hope that it will try to consult > > > the project members in the near future. > > > > (hint: set up the mailing list or ali

Re: Proposal - Free the Debian Open Use logo

2003-10-07 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 06:02:18PM -0400, Simon Law wrote: > > > In any case, the logo violates DFSG 8, so that trumps the > > > affordance given by DFSG 4. If I extracted it from Debian and used it > > > to refer to something else, I would be disallowed from modifying it. > > > > Again, that's

Re: trademark committee

2003-10-07 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 12:13:09PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > > We just tried getting the mailing list archived on master but were > > told that this was a silly idea. > > That's because I didn't notice that the list is actually spi-trademark at > the SPI

Re: Bug#210879: marked as done (constitution.txt: revise odd language -- "K Developers"... "not integers")

2003-10-10 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 07:18:15PM -0500, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: > The other reason to close this report is that the doc debian > package can't itself do anything to fix this supposed flaw; it has no > authority to modify the constitution. If the constitution needs to be > chang

Re: Regaining Access to the Control Bot

2003-10-24 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 01:31:53PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > Presumably, the fact of his banning was discussed there, the reason > documented, the person who did it identified, and the circumstances > under which the ban would be lifted described. No, not even on [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe

Re: Regaining Access to the Control Bot

2003-11-08 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 11:15:20PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > The ban had been in place for weeks, and I've been given to understand > through private communications that other BTS admins knew *of* the ban > prior to October 22nd, when I sent my mail about it. Brian asked us (as in sent mail

Re: Strawpoll on proper usage of @debian.org email address

2004-01-09 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 01:08:26AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > Hmm, I've replied to the survey, but note that some of us cannot use our > @debian.org email addresses for simple, 100% ok things like responding > to bug reports, because the machine running the BTS has broken reveived > header checks, a

Re: Strawpoll on proper usage of @debian.org email address

2004-01-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 10:55:30AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > > I further caution that it is dangerous to draw conclusions on the > > feelings of the project based on the unauthenticated responses of only > > a small minority of developers. > > More than 10% responded. AFAIK, that's way more

Re: Strawpoll on proper usage of @debian.org email address

2004-01-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 03:10:06PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > We are not talking here about people making excessive use of resources > (which is already covered under the DMUP if memory serves). For > instance, using a debian.org address as a contact on a domain probably > generates, at most, 30

Re: Strawpoll on proper usage of @debian.org email address

2004-01-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 09:46:39AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > > We are not talking here about people making excessive use of resources > > > (which is already covered under the DMUP if memory serves). For > > > instance, using a debian.org address as a contact on a domain probably > > > genera

Re: Strawpoll on proper usage of @debian.org email address

2004-01-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 01:43:45PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > > Like I said, they're random, but if they're audacious enough to send me > > up to 2 MB of images (yes, I've had it happen -- had I not, I wouldn't > > believe someone would ever do that), I don't see why they would somehow > > show the

www.fr.d.o

2004-02-10 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 01:17:02PM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > > French mirror was temporarily down. (Webserver returned short notice > > about temporary problem.) > > fr: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:19:32 +0100 Site currently down due to a hardware > problem (fried mainboard) We're working to restore

Re: www.fr.d.o

2004-02-17 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 09:43:00PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > > > French mirror was temporarily down. (Webserver returned short notice > > > about temporary problem.) > > > > fr: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:19:32 +0100 Site currently down due to a hardware > > proble

Re: Just a single Question for the Candidates

2004-03-04 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 10:04:09AM +1100, Ben Burton wrote: > > Vague fears of persecution are a sign of mental instability which can't > > be fixed by an operating system free or otherwise. > > Vague fears?? I don't think it would take either of us very long to > find examples of rude, dismissal

Re: Just a single Question for the Candidates

2004-03-04 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 03:07:47PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > > I agree, though it should be noted that Debian at least tries to be an > > "equal opportunity" hostile place -- _everyone_ gets abused :) > > Not really equally, however -- more visible people tend to get more > abuse than less visib

Re: Just a single Question for the Candidates

2004-03-06 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 09:05:27AM +, Peter Samuelson wrote: > Is this just a game to you? I wondered how many messages it would take for someone to notice. -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness.

Re: [OT] Re: A freak (but not so freak) idea: User space apt-get install

2004-03-11 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 10:48:32PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > Neither of those two documents say that we will keep all postings on > > the archives, or that we will remove them, they just say that we will > > if we want to. > [...] > seem to address your doubts... No, they don't really. In cas

Re: [OT] Re: A freak (but not so freak) idea: User space apt-get install

2004-03-11 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 05:10:33PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > Of course, they will apply their personal criteria in order to do so, > > and they will not be able to remove it from external archiving sites. > > You do know that the person you're replying to is a listmaster, right? > (Just check

Re: Some Comments on Sexism in #debian

2004-03-16 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 02:44:31PM +0100, Amaya wrote: > - On a talk at Madrid, Miguel de Icaza who is a close friend of mine > BTW, used female secretaries as examples of clueless users. Well, that's probably because that's empirically proven to be correct... it's like saying "stop only mention

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-16 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 01:02:54PM -0500, Evan Prodromou wrote: > Supporting non-free and contrib also complicates all our tools and > confuses people as to what "Debian" is. Neither of which is as tangible as the amount of effort necessary to switch, so you have to understand that there are peopl

Re: Some Comments on Sexism in #debian

2004-03-20 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 01:12:26AM +0100, Benj. Mako Hill wrote: > IIRC, the point Susan brought up at Debconf2 after the numerous "so > easy your grandmother can use it" references was, "why always the > "grand*mother*?" Fact is, these little references paint the person as > stupid, or unskilled,

Re: Should the Debian system distribution be entirely Free Software?

2004-03-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 05:24:07AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Are there going to be endless arguments about each of these points? That question sounds like a self-fulfilling prophecy... -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness.

Re: Do we need a debian-infrastructure list?

2004-03-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 03:34:32PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > For a while I wondered if we need a moderated list for infrastructure > issue. For important public changes there is debian-news, for release > issues we have debian-announce, and for development concerns we have > debian-devel-anno

Re: Debian Weekly News - April 27th, 2004

2004-04-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 10:24:03PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > Editorial Amendments to the Social Contract passed. Manoj Srivastava > [25]announced that the [26]general resolution covering editorial > amendments to the [27]social contract has passed with a 4:1 majority > (3:1 required). From 213

Re: Debian Weekly News - April 27th, 2004

2004-04-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 07:58:41PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > > > Editorial Amendments to the Social Contract passed. Manoj Srivastava > > > [25]announced that the [26]general resolution covering editorial > > > amendments to the [27]social contract has passed with a 4:1 majority > > > (3:1 requ

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