Hey, just for curiosity, do you guys read all the source code before make it
available on repos?
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Hey there, I found a great retail site with all kinds of products. Home
decor, office decor, travel, outdoors, kitchen, etc... Take a look around
at http://www.merchandisewholesale.com just click on the images of the
product to enlarge it for a better view.
Sincerely,
John
Hi, I just wanted to check to see how many CDs the full
official latest release of debian uses. When I went to a few of the download
sites they had about 8 images to download, all different sizes, but all up
there in the 500-600 million bytes. So I am a little confused now as to what
exac
ome back majority No. I
suspect the same would be true if we used "libre." The problem we face
isn't a simple language one; it's that in more than one culture,
commercial activity in the sense of selling "someone else's" work is not
expected as a right. The
o I think there will be activity again.
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Downloading and installation of 8 CDs and 3 DVDs for just one debian
GNU/Linux, its too heavy. Rewrite this Operating System in C language and
make it smaller than one GB. Thanks.
John Smith
Downloading and installation of 8 CDs and 3 DVDs for just one debian
GNU/Linux, its too heavy. Rewrite this Operating System in C language and
make it smaller than one GB.
Just distribute one ISO file instead of so many torrents and make it easy
for down-loaders. Thanks.
John Smith
Hi, I was thinking about making some hats with the debian logo on them, and
selling them to some friends, and possibly putting them on my website for
sale. I found this page https://www.debian.org/logos/#open-use and the
open-use logo looked right for me. I also saw that it linked to the GNU
lice
Hi my grandson downloaded your product and now can’t get it back to normal use
can you help me please. thanking you mr j borley
download the package suitable for this. Could you confirm which of
the many downloads match my criteria? Thank you so much!!! You do a
wonderful job!
John Klinvex
Electrical Engineer
profjo...@gmail.com
I would like info on how to install Debian on imac, (24-inch, Early 2009).
mailto:retar...@linuxmail.org>>
or
mailto:j...@cahammack.com>>
I don't know if many packages have them, but there is a privacy:: debtag that
for potential privacy concerns and other anti-features. Synaptic should be able
to show them.
On May 21, 2019 9:16:53 AM EDT, npdflr wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Would you recommend me or debian users to go through privacy policy f
On Tue, Jul 02 2019, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> On 2019/07/02 11:26, Marc Haber wrote:
>> I do feel significantly less welcome in Debian since diversity /
>> antiharassment / policitcal correctnes / CoC came around the corner.
>
> How so regarding diversity/antiharassment/CoC? They do nothing to
> t
ture. I have been a Debian Developer for something like 23 years
and still am. The flamewars are regrettable and sad, but don't
represent a decline over where we were 23 years ago.
The bureaucratic silence, however, is different. It really has me
questioning whether contributing to Debian is still worth it.
John
[1] https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html
On Tue, Dec 24 2019, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> Le mardi 24 décembre 2019 à 09:51:04-0600, John Goerzen a écrit:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I mean this post as a challenge, but not as blame. I know many teams do
>> hard work that can be thankless, and my intent is not to blam
On Tue, Dec 24 2019, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 24, 2019 10:51:04 AM EST John Goerzen wrote:
> ...
>> pygopherd was removed from testing. That makes sense. But also from
>> sid, hours after I replied to the bug about this explaining that I was
>> ac
On Wed, Dec 25 2019, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> On 2019/12/24 20:08, John Goerzen wrote:
>
>> But at the same time, I feel that the project as a whole isn't really
>> taking this problem very seriously.
>
> That is true, probably mostly because many people don't
laced on
>> people's contributions.
>
> Hi Scott, John, everybody,
>
> In the past I proposed a system of peer review to pre-screen the
> packages that are in the NEW queue.
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/CopyrightReview
>
> It never took off but maybe some process along t
rly if a package is
already in sid), but we have this one-time thing. I agree with Russ;
maybe it's needed, but it's high time we give it careful consideration
again.
John
>
> -Steve
>
> [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2019/12/msg00188.html
aling with poisonous
people on mailing lists, have had a long-term problem with it.
Moreover, if everyone understands that the DF can ban people from the
list, it can lend their attempts to defuse the situation some additional
measure of credibility and authority.
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Hi:
I have corrupted my apache2 server and deleted a key directory -
/etc/apache2. Nothing I do with dpkg or apt-get seems to put this directory
back. How do I re-install apache2?
generated now at http://h-node.com. The FSF is
also consolidating its former compatible hardware database there. Since
h-node lists hardware that works without proprietary drivers or
proprietary firmware, it should be a good fit for Debian main from
Squeeze on.
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Ben Hutchings writes:
> On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 11:42 -0400, John Sullivan wrote:
>> Thomas Goirand writes:
>>
>> > The point is to have a system so that manufacturers can write "this
>> > system supports Debian". If they don't want to do the work
Dear folks,
I wise man once told me, years ago, that he had unsubscribed from
debian-devel because of all the noise. I had thought that rather odd at
the time, but have come to appreciate it since.
Like many, I have my opinion in the init system (my choice: sysvinit -
it ain't broke, and I alrea
Hello and Goodmorning,
By the way, John,
on Debian mailinglists, stressing a point is done by _underscoring_ it.
Ooops. I 'll use underscoring from now on.
Thank you
John Manganas
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an is not part of the Secretariat. This resolution has nothing to do
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I say that I am very sorry for you. Look
inside your state and you will see which (fast-growing) minority is your
enemy.
For those "nationalist jerks" that live in Greece all I have to say is
"Co-patriots we will do whatever is necessary for our land. As always."
Thank yo
part in our
discussion. After all its Saturday and I assume that they have some minutes
to spare and clarify_their_position with_arguments!
Please Anton help us to reach the truth. Help the international Debian
community to understand your point.
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Hello everybody
Do I have to mention that we gave to the world Cyrilc Alphabet?
Which world is this Igor? Is it a parallel universe?
You gave to the world the Cyrillic Alphabet?
Now, do the following easy steps:
1) Start Mozilla
2) Type www.wikipedia.org
3) Search for "Cyrillik Alphabet"
By-
Laws, and if so, are they publically available?
Thank you very much for your time.
Cheers,
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will fix the flaws with the current ones. You
> should definitely get in contact with [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> who'll be able to tell you the problems with the current by-laws.
Thank you very much for both of your responses. I will be in contact
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te unhelpful, but we don't know where you were asking or
who this person was.
> but because 3.0 is so different,
> they only help a little.
> I don't ever bring linux or debian up in conversations, in an effort not to
> offend anyone.
I'm not sure why that would offend someone. But in any case, any
operating system will require time to learn, especially if you want to
learn a lot about it. Debian is no different there.
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ils are being bounced back.
Typical spammer. We'd like to help you but we can't. The people who are
harrassing you are not connected with Debian in any way.
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> There's a 'Powered By Debian' thingy right there on their main page.
Hmm. Privoxy is blocking it here, but not the Apache logo.
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't think Debian has ever contemplated having enough money
to even consider doing that. Besides, paying developers from Debian funds
could be very divisive.
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income and would be taxable.
Mirror policies are another matter. In any case, I'm opposed to it unless
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their students,
> does that make them commercial?
Do you seriously expect them to apply the same standards to themselves as
they do to us?
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have pay-per-bug right now. I'm sure many DDs would be willing to
take money for fixing bugs. Paying SPI for work done for free by the DDs
would be an entirely different thing, however.
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> Meanwhile, all developers on SPI projects are sitting on the beach
> drinking cocktails...
Can't I just stay inside and fix bugs? I hate cocktails, and it's -10C on
the nearest beach.
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gh this
number may have changed. (I don't think it's substantially changed in
either direction since then, though you'd need to speak to the SPI
treasurer to be certain).
Debian also has other assets, such as machine hardware. I am not aware
of any comprehensive listing of those.
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es want to pay DDs directly for fixing bugs, that's fine.
However, I don't think Debian should ever disburse money to developers for
doing Debian software work.
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> What distinguishes Capitalism from mere Sustainability are the concepts
> of Capital Accumulation, Incessant Growth, and Labor Exploitation.
Take your political propaganda elsewhere.
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> SPI *is* a business...
SPI is a corporation. That does not make it a business (just attend a few
board meettings...)
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> The fact that Debian doesn't 'exist'...
Organizations do not need to be incorporated to have legal existence.
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eneral
Public License" are included exactly as in the original, and provided
that the entire resulting derived work is distributed under the terms of
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> If you are handing [out binary CDs] then you should also be prepared to
> hand out source CDs to anybody who wants one.
Or provide a written offer.
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> "My response" has to do more with how that trademark policy appears to be
> inconsistent with Debian's founding goals.
I suspect that any effective trademark policy is going to be inconsistent
with Debian's founding goals.
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> I'll agree that the pledge to killfile you doesn't seem like the best
> solution...
This is the first I've heard of it. Not only is it not the best solution,
it's appalling. Andrew has been in my killfile for years, but he's coming
ou
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> It seems to be working.
No it isn't. It's making things worse.
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> ... or just stick to the original "DCC" as "Debian Commercial Consortium".
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you and/or would like to know more. I look forward to hearing from you
soon. If this is something you are not currently interested in I want to
thank you for your time and to keep me in mind for the future.
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Henning Makholm writes:
> A bicycle trip to my local courthouse: DKK 2, including write-offs on the
> bicycle. A trip to some court in America: Tens of thousands of DKKs.
If I were to sue you for infringing the copyright on my GPL software I
would file in US district court.
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onesia I will, of
course, do nothing regardless of the presence or absence of a choice of
venue clause in my license: suing him in the US would be a complete waste
of time and I have no money for international ventures.
> ...Or get him extradited somehow.
Extradition has nothing to do with civi
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On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 11:42:29AM -0700, Patrick Mccall wrote:
> I downloaded the first debian cd to install the os and
> try it out. After going through the install process
> and rebooting with no errors I get a dos-like system..
> Is this all debain is?? I didnt even get a gui!!!.
No, it's not.
> They need to be asked to change their FAQ to remove more trademark
> infringements.
Careful. While I agree that all the changes you suggest are desireable, I
think that most are nominative and so do not infringe the
trademark.
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copyright owner can easily show that you could have hired the job done for
a few cents a copy. Note that you only get to charge for the cost of
physically performing source distribution. You do not get to charge for
the cost of preparing the source for distribution.
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> ...special requirements with regard to attribution.
The only _requirements_ we can have with respect to attribution are fully
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is, or is it just libel?
> ...what's stopping us from officially discouraging Ubuntu's existence?
The fact that most of us are interested in cooperation or at least peaceful
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> reasonable to require him to subscribe, receive unrelated emails, then
> unsubscribe?
Subscription is not required.
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ere. The terms may or may not
be the same as last time, so you should read (and save!) the contract every
time. That's one of the reasons I prefer to avoid such things.
> I couldn't find the source code to their server, either.
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> Would people want it?
Some might.
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> also not being honest with ourselves and our users, as this is in
> contradiction with the spirit of the social contract, even if some like to
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I agree with that.
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On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 03:57:01PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 08:35:02AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> > That's not correct. The project simply voted not to removed it at that
> > time, by defeating the GR. There was no affirmative vote to keep
>
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 04:35:31PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 09:23:41AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> > I don't see what that has to do with the simple fact of what the vote
> > was about and how it turned out.
>
> So, you think that the vote
at
proper documents and records are retained, and that proper documents are
filed with the government.
I think SPI's less-than-perfect track record on these things is well
known, as is the fact that SPI has been really improving on all this --
but still needs to improve more.
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t; considerations only apply to Debian, and not to SPI?
I'd say you could probably count this in weeks, if not days.
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> to everyone else when it should.
That is an *excellent* suggestion, and would surely help mutual
understanding between Debian and SPI.
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an NMU. After all, it's one less
thing I have to do to it, right?
I do get extremely irritated when someone NMUs my package and breaks
it and disappears. But that's only happened a couple of times to me.
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Hello,
The Debian stable distribution has been a thorn in our side for a long
time. We tend to go a long time between releases, which means that
stable grows less and less useful as time goes on. We also have a
strict policy on what is allowed into stable.
This policy has many merits, especiall
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 08:43:53AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
> John Goerzen wrote:
> > Examples of things that should happen in stable, but haven't been
> > happening reliably:
> >
> > * Kernel updates with more broad hardware support
>
> This requires
TO provides some at http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/
>
> And when you see my SVN repository and sources,
> you'll find how hard to use newer Debian kernel on current
> Sarge installer, John.
>
> If new kernel has perfect compatibilities with older kernel
> (such as using de
s small
compared to the cost of being uninstallable on modern hardware.
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and yes, it seemed that they were
inching closer towards agreement.)
Let's give peace a chance[2].
[1]
http://changelog.complete.org/posts/555-We-need-to-follow-the-Amish-example.html
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Give_Peace_a_Chance
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only that).
There has to be some time where we all let bygones be bygones.
Surely we have passed this point a month or two ago. We are wasting
everyone's time.
Sven, please just live and let live.
I don't want to see a single piece of mail about the d-i team unless it
relates to the Debian installer itself.
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On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 10:54:38PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Surely we have passed this point a month or two ago. We are wasting
> > everyone's time.
> >
> > Sven, please just live and let live.
>
> John, what do you think this is all about ? I would
worked flawlessly. It took about 1.5 hours to connect to the
internet and download package software but it was worth it. I will test this
for a month and if all works well I will install on all 5 computers.
Kudos’ to Debian, and thank you for your hard work and
service.
John Kish
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 11:20:00PM +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote:
> I'm very irritated and disappointed with your policy! Why?
>
> I've used various Linux distributions for 8 years. I've been using Debian
> for the last 6 months, but today I changed my mind!
>
> After updating Firefox in Debian I
ow can we trust a developer who acts in a responsible way only when
convenient to him personally?
One other comment. You said one time that not one single other person
questioned the actions of the "expulsers". That is quite clearly not
true. But if it were, wouldn't that suggest t
r.
- The would be the projects leaders responsibility to share the
contribution accordingly.
- The project is only completed so long its agreed upon by the
investor and the project leader.
So those are the ideas, now flame me.
John.
endent project however aimed for the Debian system. Any
suggestions would be great.
Thanks.
John Watson.
ow
or as a initial investment. It would then be up to the project leader to
encourage the investor to make the payment as an initial investment.
Thanks.
John
ey is allocated if debian recieves investment.
Regards,
Bart Martens
John.
earch some lists for my name over a specific time period.
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> John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am trying to find out exactly when I joined Debian.
> [...]
> > 1) The date of my first upload
>
> Oldest signature block claiming you to be a DD s
meone other than Bruce maintained the keyring and saw the
new-maint mail. So I guess the precise date at which I started to be
able to upload packages, via chiark, is unknown but was likely in Dec
1996 or Jan 1997.
This has been interesting.
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for the *non-Debian* posts. What somebody's apartment
in Japan looks like, what the trip to Berlin was like, etc. Maybe what
their Debian development area looks like...
It's good to get to know our fellow developers as whole people, where Debian
is part -- but not all -- of their liv
On Fri December 14 2007 8:00:10 am Martin Schulze wrote:
> The "official" way for this would be to use the bsmtp service on gluck.
> Having a private UUCP installation on master is... interesting.
Where can we find documentation on this bsmtp service?
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log, I skimmed it, and didn't find the interesting bits. And I suspect
vorlon based the kickban on other criteria.
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ance, the result is not likely to be positive for
the project.
This is, I believe, why the USA changed from having the vice-president be the
presidential candidate with the second most votes to having the VP be tied
to the presidential candidate.
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I think. Now we are talking flash.
There's already a lot of stuff people use over at
debian-multimedia.org and it's not stopping people from getting to
it. Nor should it. A simple line in a config file and you've got
access to flash, even if it's on suspiciousserver.ru.
as also a vote in 2004 on a different resolution:
http://www.debian.org/vote/2004/vote_002
I guess this means that it's about time for another once-every-4-years
vote :-)
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>
> I'm very curious what part of the website or Debian would be doing this for
> years, but I guess someone could ask Richard.
I haven't been following this thread super-close, so sorry if I missed
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