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On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 11:51:23PM +, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On May 9, 2017 8:09:28 AM EDT, Ian Jackson
> wrote:
> >Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> >> However in the interests of transparency I feel that a voluntary,
> >> opt-in "Register of Intere
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On Sat, Aug 05, 2017 at 09:38:45AM -0400, Paul Wise wrote:
> > No, at worst this is misuse of Debian resources for commercial gain -
> > i.e. using long description field for advertising a non-free service.
>
> I got the impression that Faidon is not
On Sun, Aug 06, 2017 at 02:15:17PM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> ❦ 4 août 2017 20:03 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard :
> > No, at worst this is misuse of Debian ressources for commercial gain -
> > i.e. using long description field for advertising a non-free service.
>
> We have all kind of software
On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 02:25:51AM +0800, Shengjing Zhu wrote:
> The description of s3cmd is outdated. It's *not* useless without AWS.
> It can be used with self-hosted S3 protocol compatible service, such
> as Ceph RGW, minio[1]. Both are free softwares, and Ceph is in our
> main archive.
Ah, tha
On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 07:58:06AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Aug 2017, Dr. Bas Wijnen wrote:
> > Ah, that's good then! Still, I think its description has the same
> > problem as certspotter, namely that it recommends the use of a
> > non-free service. In
First of all, a clarification: This post (like most in this thread) is
primarily about Debian's philosophy, not about certspotter (but I do talk about
that at the end as well). For this reason, I'm not CC'ing the bug.
On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 05:26:58PM -0400, Faidon Liambotis wrote:
> On Fri, Aug
On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 08:55:01AM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> ❦ 12 août 2017 06:29 GMT, "Dr. Bas Wijnen" :
>
> > That is a disservice to our users. While for many users this is true, those
> > users will have contrib (and probably non-free) enabled in their
>
On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 09:55:17AM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> ❦ 12 août 2017 07:37 GMT, "Dr. Bas Wijnen" :
> > Your argument seems to be:
> >
> > Debian cares about free software.
> > Therefore, Debian does not enable contrib and non-free by default.
>
On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 12:07:51PM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> ❦ 12 août 2017 09:12 GMT, "Dr. Bas Wijnen" :
> > No, it doesn't. 2.2.1 says "None of the packages in the main archive area
> > require software outside of that area to function." In othe
On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 05:28:29PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Miles Fidelman writes:
>
> > Getting past all the obfuscatory count and counterpoint, there seem to
> > be two clear questions on the table:
>
> > 1. Given a piece of FOSS client software, that has no purpose other
> > than to inte
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 08:51:06AM -0400, Holger Levsen wrote:
> you are running this on a computer with non-free software (*). Should
> everything
> now be in contrib?
No, I explained before that I think we should be pragmatic.
> Or can we maybe rather bury this thread?
I do not see how "you r
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 06:09:12AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 01:52:18PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > Over the years, d-legal has discussed a number of packages which
> > automatically download non-free software, under some circumstances.
> >
> > The obvious example is
On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 07:49:26PM +0200, Ansgar wrote:
> > Subject: Free Software Needs Free Tools
> >
> > No Debian contributor should be expected or encouraged, when working
> > to improve Debian, to use non-free tools.
>
> Does this include:
>
> - non-free firmware on Debian hardware,
This entire thread makes me worry quite a bit about the current state of
Debian, so I feel the need to respond to several posts in it.
Tl;dr: Debian should be a project where everyone can feel comfortable to
contribute. That is not possible if we allow bullying to stand unchallenged.
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