able of contents seems (too?) comprehensive, and perhaps is worth
mentioning (I haven't had time to read any chapter, so I can't talk
about its quality).
[1] http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/
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I don't w
he first
half of January 2005.
>By the way, when will Sarge be releasedm and what is the
> codename of next release? Everyone is expecting to know...
the Debian release after sarge will be called 'etch'.
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ove in between.
> Has anyone a list of these accounts?
Only Helen Faulkner, AFAICS.
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* Benj. Mako Hill [Wed, 24 Aug 2005 18:21:38 -0400]:
> FWIW, I've also heard people complain that we have unfairly played up
> our Debian roots. ;-)
Now I'm curious, can you give some background about this?
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Ara
* Ian Jackson [Fri, 18 Nov 2005 11:58:26 +]:
> This is a technical comment and ought to be discussed on -policy,
> rather than -project.
Note that you posted to the wrong list first.
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So, irregular/impure/non-e
Yah, zero luck:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/05/msg00077.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/05/msg00080.html
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A
(Inline GPG signatures
> not treated as valid)?
Frans' messages are PGP/MIME signed, so it seems that no signatures at
all are accepted.
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S at the same time.
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member that we're talking about "broken" stuff
> in sid that shouldn't hurt too much.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. No cookie for Gustavo. NMUs are to be
done as if you'd be uploading to proposed-updates (e.g. in the amount of
testing you've give them). Ideally,
s-Bzr: http://people.debian.org/~adeodato/code/packages/taglib
Another, perhaps more parseable format, would be:
X-VCS-Url: ${VCS}:${URL}
X-Vcs-Url: bzr:http://people.debian.org/~adeodato/code/packages/taglib
Though you'd had to wonder what you'd do with a svn:// ur
till have the right to go fast, but it's maybe
not the best thing to do. (a.k.a. "nobody prevents you from uploading
NMUs to DELAYED.) :)
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his one to pieces by changing the
> description or coming up with a different logo, or whatever.
I personally like the "bottled" and "unrough swirl" ideas quite much,
but I wouldn't like to loose the Official logo for that. But if som
eceives the mail anyway.)
If there are no reasonable objections, I'll let this hang in my ~/TODO. :)
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Capitalism is the extraordinary
rchive, you can e.g. just reupload the current version (e.g.
1.2-3 as 1.2-4, which is bigger than 1.2-3.1).
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ech`echo xiun|tr nu oc|sed 'sx\(
* Steve Langasek [Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:57:38 -0700]:
> Nor is it actually required. Any DD can delete an upload out of the delayed
> queue on gluck.
Er, the directories have the sticky bit set.
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hough, see [1]. The quoted text in Spanish says:
"having this [Spanish Debian] Planet link to my blog is like a dream,
and probably what would make me jump to a higher level of commitment".)
[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-spanish/2006/06/msg00113.html
P.S.: I *love* vim7'
ort for AppFrog X.Y.Z right after they've
made X.Y.Z+1 available to their clients; or X.Y+1.0; or X+1.0.0.
* allow the staff that prepares security updates for them, to spend 1
out of each X working hours preparing a patch for a vulnerability
present in a stable package they do
those, I really don't see a problem in
> skipping your blog posts, as I don't see a reason for you to remove your
> blog.
From my, with all due respect, "hater" position, I think the same.
Particularly if you have evidence *some* people enjoy reading you via
Pl
udo
> escribo este mail para hacer una pregunta acerca de la debian 4.0 y
> debian sarge 3.1 lo que sucede es q
(@-project: His email is cut without completing the question, so I
cannot translate what it was about.)
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real world examples. (Note that after
that, and per the DEP0 text itself, it can be modified some more.)
-8<-
Title: Introducing Debian Enhancement Proposals (DEPs)
DEP: 0
State: DRAFT
Date: 2008-01-15
Drivers: Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Adeodato Simó
be a good idea to separate ACCEPTED DEPs into two groups, namely
> "historical" which nobody needs to read, because their text is included
> in some authorative document (policy, devref, whatever) and "current",
> which may be useful to read because they aren't in
t you can of
course read them in db.d.o, getent, or the keyring.
(The reason why the listing didn't include the names is, I presume,
because the code to generate it was different, and not prepared for
that, as opposed to the names not being available.)
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ll, particularly applying to native packages.)
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* Bastian Blank [Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:55:23 +0200]:
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:16:28PM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> > * Mike Hommey [Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:54:59 +0200]:
> > > FWIW, I think NMUing a package shouldn't end up with a sourceful upload
> > > but should
uch suffix in a
field that forms part of users' everyday's life is, uhm, inappropriate
or disruptive. What do they care if the version is a NMU or not?
FWIW, I would've objected for native packages if I had read the thread
at the time.
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es.
See: http://packages.debian.org/blender
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A conference is a gathering of important people who singly can do nothing
but together can decide th
e couch.
I'd be happier if nobody used such tone to communicate with users in the
debian-project list.
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n reading Ben say he feels *hurt*, all you can do is go
la-la la-la "this wasn't personal" on him, instead of starting your
message with a big apology, then I'll try my best to be kind: you suck.
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* Robert Millan [Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:20:03 +0200]:
> I think the reason you (and the other minority of bashers in this thread) are
> annoyed is because the content of my message, not because its form.
You are certainly entitled to believe that if it makes your day any
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was outraging (at least it was to me).
(On the other hand, Ben's behavior on the thread has been exemplary,
which I also feel needs saying.)
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s fixed (and I will be!), maybe you should think for a minute if
all those people trolling you (and not only in this thread) are actually
trolling you, or there is something *else* to it.
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s in contrib
is useful, so I'd like to hear what the benefits would be if we'd agree
to lose it.
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alone on this, or what.
(Rest of feedback will go in the main thread in a minute.)
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Listening to: Javier Álvarez - Love
de on the fence to me, but it's probably
good after all since an environment where they are much tolerated may
lead to the impression they can be taken lightly and prepared with less
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(In the old thread the argument "be consistent with NMUs to native
packages" was raised. For that matter, I also disagree about using +nmuX
for native packages...)
So, uhm, I guess the best we could do is give this sub-thread a bit of
time to see if more people participate on either "b
> > interested.
> The whole developers-reference is written in a non-gender-neutral
> manner. If there's consensus that it's a good idea, I would prefer if
> the whole devref was converted at once, instead of converting only this
> part.
Oh, I didn't know that w
but I didn't find it particularly hard to
understand when I first encountered it.
I'll reckon it can be surprising at first but -honestly- do you think
it's complicated enough that should be regarded as something "better
avoided" when talking to non-natives?
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er. (Everybody's
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* MJ Ray [Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:20:26 +0100]:
> Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > * Andreas Tille [Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:15:56 +0200]:
> > > Yes, and the funny thing about this is that I've always seen men very
> > > engaged
> > > in this k
* Paul Wise [Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:04:51 +0800]:
* Manoj Srivastava [Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:19:36 -0500]:
You possible want to CC Katharine, I'd say it's highly likely that she's
not subscribed to -project.
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ith the release team on this. In
> Of course.
Great.
> But with the big backlog of mails needing processing in -release, I
> thought I would wait a bit with taking release team time for
> coordination.
> If release team members feel like discussing it now, I'm open for that.
a
different source package, but well, I'm guessing you'd like for it to
migrate all at once, so coordination would be nice.
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ote/2008/11/msg00164.html
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The problem I have with making an intelligent statement is that some
people then think that it's n
the SC, I believe it would require 3:1
> | majority)
Also, this one should not be voted together with the rest, since it's
an orthogonal issue. This not /exclusively/ a solution for the problem
for Lenny.
We can ask the proposer of this option what he thinks, i
imes are in UTC.
Would it be bad to suggest a move to 0/6/12/18 UTC or something equally
sensible? The rationale is that these times ought to be more easily
remembered...
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ng your discontent heard. However, sometime after
these votes we should hold separate votes for each orthogonal issue, eg.
choice #6 and, if there's enough interest, #4.
The discontent of the day,
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* Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho [Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:32:40 +0200]:
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 05:37:33PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> > - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> > f2276370-dfd7-45db-92d5-2da0c179c569
> > [ ] Choice 1: Delay
ho wanted this vote to happen, not
becaue it was needed "no matter what", see above. But that way of
thinking can of course change via a "release team powers" GR, to use
your own words.)
> Thanks for increasing the mess we already have. I will persona
n't but offer all my
explanations above, assert that they're true, and hope they can bring us
somewhere.
* * *
One final thing: these two mails of you have brought a fair amount of
stress on me, because of the way you say things. (Maybe yo
* Adeodato Simó [Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:35:44 +0100]:
> I believe developers, and particularly those holding key positions,
> should not ignore other developers even if their concerns don't come
^^
Er, "should make an effort not to"; I think the difference is i
* Adeodato Simó [Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:35:44 +0100]:
> Well, you'll have to understand that I'm not going to stop doing
> something which I don't believe to be wrong just because a fellow
> developer asks me to.
I retract this paragraph. It was written in the first pass o
ease ignore me.
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The first step on the road to wisdom is the admission of ignorance. The
second step is realizing that you don't have to bl
). If somebody is keen
on forming a declassification team, now it'd be a good time to talk to
the DPL.
(If a team is to emerge, and they prefer something else than mails to an
alias for expressing one's wishes, I'm fine with waiting a bit, too.)
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following ones:
I don't think that's a fair consideration. We all know a proposal needs
5 seconds, so if we see one we'd second has the 5 already, I think it's
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omplete opinion and concerns.
(On the other hand, I think seconding is different, and that it should
be okay to second stuff even just because "I think it's good for it to
be on the ballot".)
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come to disagree. Also,
I'll probably won't be interested in discussing this any further, so
please don't take my lack of answer to your next message as lack of
disagreement.
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could be between people following or not an experiment by you *deep
buried in a thread pattern*, and people seconding an amendment they
agree with, knowing it still needs, say, 12 seconds.)
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* Robert Millan [Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:22:58 +0100]:
> Currently, the only solution I see is that we ask the developers what they
> think, and hold another vote.
Yes, I'm realizing myself there is not going to be another way. :-(
Proposal: hand Robert Millan a nice cup of STFU.
-
K, I wasn't formally proposing a vote. I could've been more clear
about that, but I tend to forget things may not always be as obvious on
the other side of the screen.
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once the axis of each option are set, the main proponents of that
option work out a text.
(I realize this is not very polished, but I thought I'd try, because I'm
tired of inefficient and endless discussions. I also have a couple names
in mind of possible good drivers for this ma
mail, otherwise I would've
waited.) But this was acked by leader@, and the alias is operative now.
(It just goes to an mbox in master, nobody is behind the forward yet.)
[1]: http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2008/12/msg00149.html
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addresses in http://buildd.debian.org when we get to work on those
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re a difference between the two? Which one should be used, and
when?
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Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Th
dedication to Thiemo in the
announcement? (I think I saw the idea thrown somewhere, I'm just not
sure if something came out of it.)
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* Don Armstrong [Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:48:16 -0800]:
> / i~49862854.1070...@googlemail.com
(~i, not i~, as can be seen in the manual URL that was included.)
> See http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-4.html#ss4.2 for details.
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. Did you change the public key available for security updates?
> Many thanks for your help.
> Regards,
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> Senior IT Security Consultant - CEH
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send a
quick mail to the bug report.
Additionally, listmaster has also suggested that we use a teams.debian.net
list for this purpose. I don't agree with this for the reasons stated in
the bug report. Feel free to comment on this issue as well.
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If there is a sin against life, it consists perhaps not so much in
despairing of life as in hoping for anothe
ar, as a potential mentor, I'm very interested in hearing how
a student gets assigned to a project (do they just express interest on
it? what do those interviews entail and who does them?), and if the
mentors get any say/opportunity to review/ack the student chosen for
n we start getting proposals from students.
This clears up things, thanks. I'm pleased to hear mentors have an
active role in the student assignation process. I think it's only
understandable one would want to take precautions the time spent
mentoring will be time well spent, and the result
Hello,
As previously mentioned, the wanna-build team has been looking into
moving to a public role address instead of a private alias. We now have
a list on lists.debian.org for this purpose:
debian-wb-t...@lists.debian.org
This address should be used in preference over the old alias for any
* Paul Wise [Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:35:44 +0900]:
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Peter Pentchev wrote:
> > (And yes, I know about backports.d.n; maybe I'll get 'round to submitting
> > or maintaining stuff there at some point, but for the present it is
> > a bit easier for me to keep it all in a
* Goswin von Brederlow [Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:38:38 +0200]:
> Please create a new entry on
> http://www.debian.org/intro/organization
> for the debian-wb-team listing at least the major players. People
> looking for the email address will not find it here.
Good suggestion, thanks. This should be
+ Bernd Zeimetz (Wed, 01 Apr 2009 03:18:33 +0200):
> Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:00:46AM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> >> Wouldn’t it be just better to point those domains to the respective
> >> project-wide efforts? I’d appreciate opini
+ Peter Palfrader (Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:39:01 +0200):
> On Wed, 08 Apr 2009, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote:
> > I'm just wondering if we should discuss more about the rules or
> > if DSA will propose rules for adoption with some "migration
> > period".
> While I personally thing many of
Hello, Shams, thanks for your report. It seems that the ftp.is.debian.org
mirror is very out of date: it was last updated on April 3rd, it seems!
I’m CC'ing our mirror people so that they can decide what the next
action is in this case, since something is obviously wrong with it. In
the meantime,
> I haven't done an exhaustive survey, but it seems pretty clear so far
> that the domain does not get any significant amount of legitimate mail
> from machines other than the debian.org hosts.
As I understand it, @packages.d.o is the standard way of contacting
the maintainers of a package in an e
Hello,
this is just a quick mail to let you know that the Release Team will be
holding a meeting in Cambridge, UK, this coming weekend. The meeting
will be attended by Luk Claes, Pierre Habouzit, Philipp Kern, Neil
McGovern and myself. As mentioned in d-d-a, this meeting was originally
planned for
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