On Sb, 15 iun 13, 21:38:24, Manu Sporny wrote:
>
> Yes, we probably don't want to create a Mos Eisley in Debian. However,
> knowing that you can go somewhere to hire Debian developers to fix
> issues that you're having with the system would be very helpful for
> companies (like ours and the ones w
On Sonntag, 16. Juni 2013, Manu Sporny wrote:
> Thanks to everyone that has participated in the discussion thus far. :)
> I think there have been a number of solid concerns and issues raised,
> which I'm going to try and wrap into a proposal below.
and then you continue to ignore these concerns an
Manu Sporny writes:
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> With respect to Debian-packaged software, if we address both issues,
> the benefit is that more resources can be directed toward Free
> Software development.
That is an assumption that I happen to think is completely unfounded.
IBM tested various ways of incentivising c
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 11:20:47PM -0400, Manu Sporny wrote:
> Thanks to everyone that has participated in the discussion thus far. :)
> I think there have been a number of solid concerns and issues raised,
> which I'm going to try and wrap into a proposal below.
>
> I think it might help simplify
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:05:48AM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> You suggest that package maintainers get to suggest where donations go.
> There's two glaring problems there. First, it disregards all the great
> things people do to make Debian better that are _not_ about packaging
> at all.
Yeah,
On Sun, 2013-06-16 at 09:47 +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> The idea that it's currently impossible to fund Free Software is
> nonsense. See IBM, HP, Canonical, my customers, anyone that's ever
> said to a DD (or anyone else for that matter): "I'll buy you a beer if
> you help me package this..."
The
On Sun, 2013-06-16 at 07:59 -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
> On Sun, 2013-06-16 at 09:47 +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> > The idea that it's currently impossible to fund Free Software is
> > nonsense. See IBM, HP, Canonical, my customers, anyone that's ever
> > said to a DD (or anyone else for that matte
On Sun, 2013-06-16 at 13:25 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> If you're seriously attempting to equate "I'll buy you a beer if you
> help me" with "corrupt bribery", then I suspect the net effect is
> going to be that people stop reading the rest of your argument.
It's not serious, it's absurdism. A
* Manu Sporny:
> As an aside, PaySwarm is currency agnostic. The commercial
> implementation of it (Meritora) deals with USD today, has plans for Euro
> (and a few other national currencies) within a year, and Bitcoin shortly
> after that.
For the Euro, we already have the SEPA system, which is v
On 06/16/2013 04:16 AM, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Sonntag, 16. Juni 2013, Manu Sporny wrote:
>> Thanks to everyone that has participated in the discussion thus
>> far. :) I think there have been a number of solid concerns and
>> issues raised, which I'm going to try and wrap into a proposal
>> b
On 06/16/2013 04:47 AM, Philip Hands wrote:
> Manu Sporny writes: ...
>> With respect to Debian-packaged software, if we address both
>> issues, the benefit is that more resources can be directed toward
>> Free Software development.
>
> It is bound to direct money to highly visible projects, re
On 06/16/2013 05:05 AM, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> You suggest that package maintainers get to suggest where donations
> go. There's two glaring problems there.
What about making it impossible for the package maintainers to have any
say on where the money goes, then? What if it is solely up to the
up
On 06/16/2013 06:26 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> OTOH, I think it would be fine to have something at the package level
> to pass on donations to our upstreams, as well as to ease donating to
> the Debian project as a whole. See [1,2], already mentioned by Paul
> Wise in his initial followup to t
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