Re: trademark policy draft

2012-08-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 01:37:06PM -0600, Paul Wise wrote: > > I'm happy to attach a first complete draft of such a policy, and I'm > > looking for comment on it. > > Some of the things that are explicitly allowed by the policy are > things that AFAIK are not restricted by trademark law, is the pu

Re: trademark policy draft

2012-08-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 07:10:51AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > I think that we should show the example and remove restrictions on the > commercial use of our trademark. We can of course, in a non-normative > section, keep a recommendation to indicate if a donation will be made > to Debian. Tha

Re: trademark policy draft

2012-08-01 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Stefano Zacchiroli [2012-07-31 18:07]: > \subsection{When to Use the DEBIAN Trademarks} I'd change this to "When You Can Use the DEBIAN Trademarks" or "When You Can Use the DEBIAN Trademarks Without Permission". > \item You can make t-shirts, desktop wallpapers, caps, or other merchandise > w

Re: trademark policy draft

2012-08-01 Thread Joey Hess
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > \item You can use DEBIAN trademarks to make true factual statements about > DEBIAN or communicate compatibility with your product truthfully. Can I use DEBIAN trademarks to make snarky ill-supported statements? (Anticipating a decrease in list traffic.) > \item You

Re: trademark policy draft

2012-08-01 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 08/01/2012 11:41 AM, Joey Hess wrote: > Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: >> \item You cannot use DEBIAN trademarks in a domain name, with or without >> commercial intent. > > So debian.mirror.my.org is illegal? Hmm, 'debian' is the default live hostname. That's a lot of potential infringements ...

Re: trademark policy draft

2012-08-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 10:41:31AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > \item You can use DEBIAN trademarks to make true factual statements about > > DEBIAN or communicate compatibility with your product truthfully. > > Can I use DEBIAN trademarks to make snarky ill-supported

Re: trademark policy draft

2012-08-01 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 05:50:56PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > (Fearing an increase in nitpicking threshold.) Well, you can, people > will, and I'm sure nobody will bother, on average. But I can imagine all > sorts of "journalistic" declarations about Debian that would undermine > the projec

Re: trademark policy draft

2012-08-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 05:10:41PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 05:50:56PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > (Fearing an increase in nitpicking threshold.) Well, you can, people > > will, and I'm sure nobody will bother, on average. But I can imagine all > > sorts of "j

Re: trademark policy draft

2012-08-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Lars Wirzenius writes: > I'll leave the discussion with this counter suggestion: change the > trademark policy to say: > We call ourselves the Debian project. You can use our name as long > as it doesn't make reasonable people confuse you or your stuff with > us or our stuff, or impl

Re: trademark policy draft

2012-08-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 10:41:31AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > \item You can use DEBIAN trademarks to make true factual statements about > > DEBIAN or communicate compatibility with your product truthfully. > Can I use DEBIAN trademarks to make snarky ill-supported sta

Re: trademark policy draft

2012-08-01 Thread Luca BRUNO
Stefano Zacchiroli scrisse: > > > \item You cannot use DEBIAN trademarks in a domain name, with or > > > without commercial intent. > > So debian.mirror.my.org is illegal? > > I've been correct by Mako on this before. Short answer: hostname != > domain name, so "debian.mirror.my.org" is perfectly