Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 03:17:43AM -0300, Jorge Gonçalves wrote: > Hello! > > First, thank you for the great distro that is Debian, one of the best. > > I would like to suggest you some way so that the users keep on using > the good old KDE 3.5 when they migrate to the upcoming Lenny. > > Maybe

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Dotan Cohen
2010/5/6 Jorge Gonçalves : > Hello! > > First, thank you for the great distro that is Debian, one of the best. > > I would like to suggest you some way so that the users keep on using > the good old KDE 3.5 when they migrate to the upcoming Lenny. > > Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the package

Re: Squeeze, firmware and installation

2010-05-06 Thread Tapio Lehtonen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yves-Alexis Perez kirjoitti: > On jeu., 2010-05-06 at 09:15 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: >> I recently had to install Debian lenny on a HP ProLiant machine, which >> required bnx2 firmware for the network controller. Just downloaded the >> firmware .deb fro

Draft of the Final version of DMUP version 1.1.2

2010-05-06 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, find attached the final draft of the new DMUP version 1.1.2 to be published on debian-devel-annou...@l.d.o on Sunday, May 9th, which would mean the new version then would become effective on July 4th, 2010. A full log of changes can be found at [1] and the patch-view can be found at [2]. Che

Re: Squeeze, firmware and installation

2010-05-06 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Arto Jantunen | Peter Palfrader writes: | | > On Wed, 05 May 2010, Arto Jantunen wrote: | >> Seriously speaking, to me it seems very clear that non-free firmware | >> will not be present on official installer images. Then again, the | >> installer team has made it very easy to inject firmwar

Re: Squeeze, firmware and installation

2010-05-06 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Tollef Fog Heen] > It's not uncommon to install machines you are not physically close to > and where plugging in hardware is therefore hard, so having it on the > install media already is quite useful. Yes. It would allow one to create ones own installation CD with firmware included, and get th

Re: Squeeze, firmware and installation

2010-05-06 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On 06/05/2010 11:59, Tapio Lehtonen wrote: > How does the user know, which firmware he/she is going to need? It is doable > to > have the files on usb-stick or some such, if it is known which files need to > be > there. Note that firwmare.tar.gz contains quite a lot of firmwares. And, afair, the

Re: Squeeze, firmware and installation

2010-05-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
p...@debian.org wrote: >> I'm also wondering what people think about adding some firmware >> to our official installation media. >I don't think it is needed. I do. >I recently had to install Debian lenny on a HP ProLiant machine, which >required bnx2 firmware for the network controller. Just down

Re: Squeeze, firmware and installation

2010-05-06 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
On 2010-05-05, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > This is still an annoying thing to handle. If you install machines at > different > locations regulary, this firmware crap is nothing but a pita. I can't see a > reason why we should not be able to ship cd-images in "non-free". I fully concur. Cheers,

Re: Squeeze, firmware and installation

2010-05-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 11:26:55PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > I can't see a reason why we should not be able to ship cd-images in > "non-free". What do you exactly mean by that? I can imagine at least two different interpretations of it: 1) Having different CD image sets: some sets containing

Re: Squeeze, firmware and installation

2010-05-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Marco d'Itri wrote: > Now try again, this time netinstalling an IBM Bladecenter with modern > blades like HS21 or HS2. > To which you have no physical access because it is in a different city. So the problem only occurs when installing on a host you don't have ph

Re: Squeeze, firmware and installation

2010-05-06 Thread Raphael Geissert
Josselin Mouette wrote: > If there really was a need for it, such images would already exist. They do already exist and are labelled "*Ubuntu." That's what people end up trying and installing after they waste their time installing Debian just to see that their wireless and/or ethernet card "doe

Re: Squeeze, firmware and installation

2010-05-06 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On jeu., 2010-05-06 at 21:16 -0500, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Josselin Mouette wrote: > > If there really was a need for it, such images would already exist. > > They do already exist and are labelled "*Ubuntu." > > That's what people end up trying and installing after they waste their time > in