Re: Disputes between developers - draft guidelines

2002-11-04 Thread Scott Dier
* Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [021017 00:51]: > > In particular, I note that you seem to be grinding your axe about the > > issue from Bug#97671. > > No, you do me a disservice. That was not Debian's first severity war > and it probably won't be the last. > For new Developers the text

Re: Microsoft's plans to kill open source: TCPA

2002-11-04 Thread Scott Dier
* Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [021103 23:38]: > On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 12:19:44PM -0500, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > > FUD! FUD FUD FUD FUD!!! This is completely all wrong. Recently a talk > > was given at MIT by one of the designers of Microsoft Palladium (their > > trusted computing in

Re: Microsoft's plans to kill open source: TCPA

2002-11-04 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 12:35:17AM -0600, Scott Dier wrote: > Luckily, if this happens to x86 some day, everyone in 'Free' communities > will have a damn good reason to leave this platform in droves. :) From what I've read, this won't actually work: TCPA enabled systems will still run obsoleted op

Re: why Ian Jackson won't discuss the "disputes" document draft with me

2002-11-04 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 12:34:33AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > If there are people out there apart from Branden and Manoj who > > disagree with me about anything to do with this document (or indeed > > about anything at all in Debian!), I'd like to encourage them to mail > > me about it. I

apt-get upgrade

2002-11-04 Thread ..::jdb78::..
hi, i was just wondering why apt-get update /apt-get upgrade wont update ANY files since lets say about 2 months? are there new source.lists or is there no update anymore? just me, J.D. ..::drowning in my tears again::..

Re: Microsoft's plans to kill open source: TCPA

2002-11-04 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 05:29:57PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > * enough content providers to think the mechanism is effective, > to make it so that if you don't have it you miss out on lots of > cool stuff. Try spending a couple of weeks without, say, mp3s, > flash,

Re: apt-get upgrade

2002-11-04 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Mon, 2002-11-04 at 13:00, ..::jdb78::.. wrote: > hi, > > i was just wondering why apt-get update /apt-get upgrade wont update ANY > files since lets say about 2 months? are there new source.lists or is there > no update anymore? I presume apt-get updzte reported some errors. What did they s

Re: apt-get upgrade

2002-11-04 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
Oliver Elphick wrote: On Mon, 2002-11-04 at 13:00, ..::jdb78::.. wrote: >hi, > >i was just wondering why apt-get update /apt-get upgrade wont update ANY >files since lets say about 2 months? are there new source.lists or is there >no update anymore? I presume apt-get updzte reported some erro

Re: apt-get upgrade

2002-11-04 Thread Martijn van de Streek
On Mon, 04 Nov 2002, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: > >I presume apt-get updzte reported some errors. What did they say? > > > Or your source.list point to a obsolete mirror. > Check http://www.debian.org/mirror/list and ev. > update your source.list file Or you're running woody.. Martijn -- Ik BE

Re: apt-get upgrade

2002-11-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Martijn van de Streek wrote: > On Mon, 04 Nov 2002, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: > > > >I presume apt-get updzte reported some errors. What did they say? > > > > > > Or your source.list point to a obsolete mirror. > > Check http://www.debian.org/mirror/list and ev. > > update your

Re: why Ian Jackson won't discuss the "disputes" document draft with me

2002-11-04 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 06:06:44PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > -A *DRAFT* joint recommendation of the the Technical Committee, the > -Project Leader and the Bug Tracking System Administrators. > +A *DRAFT* joint recommendation of the the Technical Committee, and the > +Project Leader. As lo

Re: Microsoft's plans to kill open source: TCPA

2002-11-04 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 01:30:20PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: AS> [Things written in flash are usually devoid of content. I generally agree with your sentiment against all these proprietary media formats, but I'd also like to point out that, while we have Ogg Vorbis (and now Tarkin), we don't

Re: why Ian Jackson won't discuss the "disputes" document draft with me

2002-11-04 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 06:06:44PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > -A *DRAFT* joint recommendation of the the Technical Committee, the > -Project Leader and the Bug Tracking System Administrators. > +A *DRAFT* joint recommendation of the the Technical Committee, and the > +Project Leader. Well,

Re: why Ian Jackson won't discuss the "disputes" document draft with me

2002-11-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> b) I objected to document being written apparently with the >> ratification of the *technical* committee, despite this not >> being a technical issue; and that too was dismissed with ``it is >> important to do so''; despite no other member

Re: why Ian Jackson won't discuss the "disputes" document draft with me

2002-11-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes: Anthony> Given no evidence to assume that it is, though, maybe we Anthony> shouldn't leap to it as a conclusion just yet? For the record, I am afraid of disagreeing publicly with aj. manoj -- Be self-reliant and your success is assured. M

Re: why Ian Jackson won't discuss the "disputes" document draft with me

2002-11-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Matt" == Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Matt> On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 06:06:44PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: >> -A *DRAFT* joint recommendation of the the Technical Committee, the >> -Project Leader and the Bug Tracking System Administrators. >> +A *DRAFT* joint recommendation

apt-get upgrade

2002-11-04 Thread ..::jdb78::..
Thank you very much for your help. i got woody with 2.4.18 kernel and the following /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main con

debian cd-image mirrors and US export restrictions

2002-11-04 Thread Harald K .
Hi for several weeks now I am dealing with the different methods of downloading the official cd images of the debian distribution. The hundred of mirrors containing the debian packages are clearly separated into those, which are located in the US, and those, which are not, because of the non-u

Re: why Ian Jackson won't discuss the "disputes" document draft with me

2002-11-04 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 01:27:23PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Ian> I'm going to digress here somewhat on the `lurkers support me in > Ian> email' question: > > I a going to outright reject that these hypothetical lurkers > have any bearing on a public social document that is suppose

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