Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-02 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 06:03:23PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Debian policy should be the minimalistic set of rules that > packages follow, and expect other packages to foolow too, in order to > have the system be greater than the sum of the parts. This is what > allows packages to d

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes: Anthony> On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 06:03:23PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Debian policy should be the minimalistic set of rules that >> packages follow, and expect other packages to foolow too, in order to >> have the system be greater than the sum of

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-02 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 12:03:38AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > and meet > > the most frequent complaint about the old policy + packaging manual: > > they contradict, and I have to look in two documents. > > Considering the packaging manual doesn't exist anymore, I don't see how > anyone could

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2002-05-02 Thread Francois Chenais
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Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-02 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 01:44:50AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Anthony> Policy at the moment provides a fairly thorough grounding in > Anthony> Debian's best practices. That's highly useful. > > Thorough is a matter of opinion. I think it is inconsistent, > bumbling mess, occasionall

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Julian Gilbey wrote: > Part I: The Debian Archive > 1: DFSG and the sections of the archive (free, non-free, contrib, non-us) non-us is a different archive. > Part II: Packages and metadata Refer to a dpkg reference instead and document extra restrictions Wichert. -- __

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-02 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 02:30:34PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Julian Gilbey wrote: > > Part I: The Debian Archive > > 1: DFSG and the sections of the archive (free, non-free, contrib, non-us) > > non-us is a different archive. I understand; this was just an imprecise abbreviatio

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Julian Gilbey wrote: > Surely either everything necessary should be in the dpkg reference or > everything necessary should be in policy. I'm not sure. I see them more as complementing each other, much like RFC1855 (netiquette) complements RFC822 (email format) or how a users manual comp

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-02 Thread Adam Di Carlo
[Please continue to CC me on any replies.] Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Le Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 02:24:14PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa écrivait: > > I was hoping to get libpkg-guide (library packaging guide) into > > Developers Reference, although the terms and language is quite > > d

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-02 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Thu, May 02, 2002 at 10:05:06AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo écrivait: > - Debian Best Packaging Practices > > This item is vague. I assume we're talking about tips and developer > materials not contained in policy? Yes. It may also include things moved away from policy ... when the distinction bet

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Julian" == Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Julian> On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 02:30:34PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: >> >> Refer to a dpkg reference instead and document extra restrictions Julian> Surely either everything necessary should be in the dpkg reference or Julian> eve

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Adam" == Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Adam> I wish I could work on only this until I was done, leaving the other Adam> bits to other co-maintainers. Adam> Unfortunately I do not yet have any other co-maintainers -- Adam> volunteers, anyone? I would not mind helping ou

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Wichert" == Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Wichert> Previously Julian Gilbey wrote: >> Surely either everything necessary should be in the dpkg reference or >> everything necessary should be in policy. Wichert> I'm not sure. I see them more as complementing each other, much l

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-02 Thread Colin Walters
[ -policy dropped because this message isn't relevant there ] On Wed, 2002-05-01 at 19:03, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > [...] This is what allows us to > have a menu system, automated completions in bash, auto-recompilation > of elisp packages, and a plethora of other synergies that elevates > De

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On the other hand, all packages must not be left to the whimsy > of the dpkg developers either; since potentially large numbers of > packages would be impacted by such changes. I do hope you trust is to make changes sensibly. In fact the current referen

Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-02 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit: > > > I was hoping to get libpkg-guide (library packaging guide) into > > > Developers Reference, although the terms and language is quite > > > different. > > > > Agreed ... it fits well within "Debian Best Packaging Practices". > > Ok, I

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Re: Working on debian developer's reference and "best packaging practices"

2002-05-02 Thread Joey Hess
> It's also those same characteristics which elevate Debian above > operating systems which don't use Linux, such as NetBSD. So why not just > say '...that elevates Debian above all other operating systems.'? It's > more accurate, and you avoid having to write either Linux or GNU/Linux. > A win a