Re: snapshot.debian.net

2009-04-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:36 AM, peter green wrote: > Ukai do you plan to fix snapshot.debian.net? If not does anyone fancy > setting up a similar service (I would do it myself if I had the resources, > unfortunately I don't)? Would it even make sense to make such a service >

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2009-04-28 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Peter, Am 2009-04-28 20:36:50, schrieb peter green: > I have found snapshot.debian.net to be an invaluable resource when I > wanted to check a bug with a particular version of a package and i'm > sure others have too. Unfortunately the site seems to have been going &g

snapshot.debian.net

2009-04-28 Thread peter green
I have found snapshot.debian.net to be an invaluable resource when I wanted to check a bug with a particular version of a package and i'm sure others have too. Unfortunately the site seems to have been going downhill for a while (the search doesn't find anything at all recent, re

snapshot.debian.net -> .org

2005-05-31 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Hi, As many here (d-project) probably remember, I discussed promoting snapshot.debian.net to an official debian.org service recently. <http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2005/04/msg00327.html> There was more or less general agreement about snapshot being a useful service, an

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-05-04 Thread Sven Luther
:39:55AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > >> > >>>On Monday 25 April 2005 08.03, Branden Robinson / Debian Project Leader > >>>wrote: > >>> > >>>>* establishing a backup site for ``snapshot.debian.net`` > >> > >>>I won

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-05-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
n Robinson / Debian Project Leader >>>wrote: >>> >>>>* establishing a backup site for ``snapshot.debian.net`` >> >>>I wonder if snapshot shouldn't be promoted to an official debian.*org* >>>service in recognition of its value to the project

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-05-04 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 12:09:49AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 08:39:55AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > On Monday 25 April 2005 08.03, Branden Robinson / Debian Project Leader > > wrote: > > > * establishing a backup site for ``snapsh

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-05-01 Thread Andrew Pollock
*does* Debian spend on resources right now? Not much, afaict - > most resources are sponsored by somebody (as is current > snapshot.debian.net). It sounds to me like snapshot.debian.{org,net} would be a pretty good candidate for sponsorship by a storage company that is Linux friendly.

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-27 Thread Fumitoshi UKAI
At Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:00:47 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On 26-04-2005 18:33, Fumitoshi UKAI wrote: > > > So, one issues to create replica or backup site in Europe (or other > > region) is how to copy initial set of snapshot.debian.net. > > I'm afraid rsyn

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26-04-2005 18:33, Fumitoshi UKAI wrote: > So, one issues to create replica or backup site in Europe (or other > region) is how to copy initial set of snapshot.debian.net. > I'm afraid rsync whole archive once would be impossi

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-26 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
Martin Michlmayr wrote on 26-04-2005 2:21: * Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-04-25 13:12]: I consider binary packages as extrem useful to check for dependency changes etc, or for fixing issues in some core packages where you need to take an older version for building a newer one. Also, sna

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-26 Thread Fumitoshi UKAI
*does* Debian spend on resources right now? Not much, afaict - > most resources are sponsored by somebody (as is current > snapshot.debian.net). > - to limit the growth: keep x years of binaries, y years of source, and > rely on past Debian releases for the really ancient stuff. >

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-26 Thread Fumitoshi UKAI
py, set it up with the same scripts here, rsync it once, and > name it snapshot-eu.debian.net. So, one issues to create replica or backup site in Europe (or other region) is how to copy initial set of snapshot.debian.net. I'm afraid rsync whole archive once would be impossible because it

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Stephen Gran
> Summarizing the discussion so far: > > [...] > > an interesting data point would be how much the service is used. > > could access statistics be made available, please? Size of archive: http://snapshot.debian.net/du/du.png http://snapshot.debian.net/du/df.png Traffic

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-04-25 19:58]: > Instead, if you really want to set up a European mirror, buy > a couple of disks in Japan, ask them folks over there to make > a copy, set it up with the same scripts here, rsync it once, and > name it snapshot-eu.debian.net. Actually, th

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-04-25 13:12]: > I consider binary packages as extrem useful to check for dependency > changes etc, or for fixing issues in some core packages where you > need to take an older version for building a newer one. Also, snapshot.d.net could be used for automat

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Steve Langasek
rare cases of me dealing with removed packages, I can't rely on > experience. Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. When I said "dropped from the archive", I meant the particular version of the package, not the package as a whole. > > According to <http://snapshot.debian.

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Andreas Schuldei
On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 10:37:48PM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > I wonder if snapshot shouldn't be promoted to an official debian.*org* > > service in recognition of its value to the project. > > Summarizing the discussion so far: [...] an interesting data point would be how much the servi

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Adrian von Bidder
he indexing is really nice (compared with what the morgue offers) Comments: - why not leave it where it is now, just add the DNS alias - How much *does* Debian spend on resources right now? Not much, afaict - most resources are sponsored by somebody (as is current snapshot.debian.net). - t

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.04.25.1115 +0200]: > I would love to have it as an official service, and even a backup. > I read that it currently takes one TB of disk space. We wanted to mirror it here in .ch but then decided against it. It grows quickly, and mirroring makes

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2005-04-25 kello 11:37 +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar kirjoitti: > Does that include the binary packages? I'd guess that binary packages > are of lesser use because of library and other environmental changes, > and it is mainly/exclusively the source packages that are of assistance > in this matt

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Stephen Frost
* Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 08:39:55AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > On Monday 25 April 2005 08.03, Branden Robinson / Debian Project Leader > > wrote: > > > * establishing a backup site for ``snapshot.debian.net`` >

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Martin Schulze
east as long as the package is in at least one of {oldstable, stable, testing, unstable, experimental}. However, since there are only rare cases of me dealing with removed packages, I can't rely on experience. > According to <http://snapshot.debian.net/du/df.png>, it's already ex

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 01:21:04PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 01:12:43PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > I consider binary packages as extrem useful to check for dependency > > changes etc, > > That can be done by having an archive of packages files alone. > > >

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 01:12:43PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > I consider binary packages as extrem useful to check for dependency > changes etc, That can be done by having an archive of packages files alone. > or for fixing issues in some core packages where you need to take an > older version

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Andreas Barth
* Jeroen van Wolffelaar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050425 11:40]: > On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 11:15:57AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > > The snapshot service is very valuable when it comes to checking older > > versions of packages. For example, it is a very, very good help for > > doing security work wh

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Steve Langasek wrote: > others outside the project. Since DDs have access to recently removed snapshot.d.n gives us access to a lot more than just recently removed packages. You get all the uploads since snapshot.d.n went online. I *really* think it deserves to become snaps

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Martin Schulze
Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 11:15:57AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > > The snapshot service is very valuable when it comes to checking older > > versions of packages. For example, it is a very, very good help for > > doing security work when older package versions need

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Steve Langasek
; > * establishing a backup site for ``snapshot.debian.net`` > > > I wonder if snapshot shouldn't be promoted to an official debian.*org* > > > service in recognition of its value to the project. > > One concern I have, personally, is over precisely how much value >

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 11:15:57AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > The snapshot service is very valuable when it comes to checking older > versions of packages. For example, it is a very, very good help for > doing security work when older package versions need to be reviewed. Does that include th

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-04-25 11:15]: > I would love to have it as an official service, and even a backup. > I read that it currently takes one TB of disk space. It has about 1.4 TB at the moment. -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Martin Schulze
Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 08:39:55AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > On Monday 25 April 2005 08.03, Branden Robinson / Debian Project Leader > > wrote: > > > * establishing a backup site for ``snapshot.debian.net`` > > > I wonder if sna

Re: snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 08:39:55AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > On Monday 25 April 2005 08.03, Branden Robinson / Debian Project Leader > wrote: > > * establishing a backup site for ``snapshot.debian.net`` > I wonder if snapshot shouldn't be promoted to an official deb

snapshot.debian.net

2005-04-24 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 25 April 2005 08.03, Branden Robinson / Debian Project Leader wrote: > * establishing a backup site for ``snapshot.debian.net`` I wonder if snapshot shouldn't be promoted to an official debian.*org* service in recognition of its value to the project. -- vbi -- Man belongs