Re: Fasten or tighten (was: Screw) non-free.

2004-03-22 Thread Martin Albert
On Monday 22 March 2004 16:24, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Martin Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-22 15:51]: > > There is this list of QA maintained packages, however. I don't use > > Half of this stuff doesn't exist in unstable anymore. Oops, sorry, i always forget about the stable Debian mac

Re: Fasten or tighten (was: Screw) non-free.

2004-03-22 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Martin Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-03-22 15:51]: > There is this list of QA maintained packages, however. I don't use > any of them and currently can't put more into my 'queue of > promises'. Half of this stuff doesn't exist in unstable anymore. -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Fasten or tighten (was: Screw) non-free.

2004-03-22 Thread Martin Albert
On Saturday 20 March 2004 11:36, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 12:47:52AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 10:47:25AM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > "not changing things" is effectively a removal of non-free: > > > > > > Some bug-free contrib and non-free packa

The hole made by swine in rooting (was: Screw) non-free.

2004-03-22 Thread Martin Albert
> > PS. Dict'ing the subject line confuses me even more. While i > > certainly have fun with the software, i hope that the originator of > > this subject did not mean to 'defeat expectation through trickery' > > or 'oppress'? > no > "Screw" is a synonym for "fuck", and as it is not a 4-letter wor

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-21 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 12:16:27PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 12:55:23PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 09:39:50PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > A package was built by the maintainer for one architecture. > > > Can I be sure, that the licence

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-21 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 12:55:23PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 09:39:50PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > A package was built by the maintainer for one architecture. > > Can I be sure, that the licence allows rebuilding it on another > > architecture? > > Not without readi

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-20 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 12:47:52AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 10:47:25AM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > "not changing things" is effectively a removal of non-free: > > > > Some bug-free contrib and non-free packages are waiting for more than > > one year to enter testing s

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 10:47:25AM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > "not changing things" is effectively a removal of non-free: > > Some bug-free contrib and non-free packages are waiting for more than > one year to enter testing since they were not rebuilt on all > architectures. File ftp.debian.org

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-19 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 12:55:23PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 09:39:50PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > A package was built by the maintainer for one architecture. > > Can I be sure, that the licence allows rebuilding it on another > > architecture? > > Not without readi

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-19 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 01:36:44AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 11:55:56AM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > > The buildds currently ignore non-free packages. > > > How do you propose to rectify or work around that? Will passing Anthony > > > Towns's proposed amendment autom

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-18 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 09:39:50PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > A package was built by the maintainer for one architecture. > Can I be sure, that the licence allows rebuilding it on another > architecture? Not without reading the license, no. Apparently there've been packages like this in the past

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-18 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 11:55:56AM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > The buildds currently ignore non-free packages. > > How do you propose to rectify or work around that? Will passing Anthony > > Towns's proposed amendment automatically rectify it? > > If not, shouldn't we have a plan in place for

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-18 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 08:51:28PM +0100, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > Adrian Bunk wrote: > >On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 12:28:59PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > > >>I've started occasionally building powerpc non-free packages with a > >>private sbuild installation (I should set up buildd too, but ha

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-18 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Adrian Bunk wrote: On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 12:28:59PM +, Colin Watson wrote: I've started occasionally building powerpc non-free packages with a private sbuild installation (I should set up buildd too, but haven't got round to it). It's relatively slow work since I need to check the copyrig

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-18 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 12:28:59PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > I've started occasionally building powerpc non-free packages with a > private sbuild installation (I should set up buildd too, but haven't got > round to it). It's relatively slow work since I need to check the > copyright files fir

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 05:47:25PM -0500, Clint Adams wrote: > Out of date in non-free by arch > --- > alpha 72 > arm78 > hppa 72 > i3866 > ia64 67 > m68k 59 > mips 101 > mipsel103 > powerpc53 > s390 81 > sparc 80 > > Many packages in

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-18 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 02:11:22PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 12:45:50PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 05:47:25PM -0500, Clint Adams wrote: > > > > To our users who were used to quality packages from accountable > > > > maintainers even if the s

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 12:45:50PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 05:47:25PM -0500, Clint Adams wrote: > > > To our users who were used to quality packages from accountable > > > maintainers even if the software wasn't 100% DFSG-compliant: bummer, man. > > > > Out of date in n

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-16 Thread Evan Prodromou
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > "JR" == Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Me> Supporting non-free and contrib also complicates all our tools Me> and confuses people as to what "Debian" is. JR> Neither of which is as tangible as the amount of effort JR> n

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-16 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 01:02:54PM -0500, Evan Prodromou wrote: > Supporting non-free and contrib also complicates all our tools and > confuses people as to what "Debian" is. Neither of which is as tangible as the amount of effort necessary to switch, so you have to understand that there are peopl

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-16 Thread Evan Prodromou
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > "HM" == Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: HM> I don't think the removal of non-free from debian.org can be HM> justified on the basis of time & effort alone. Of course not. Supporting non-free and contrib also complicates all o

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-16 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 09:32:16PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > I'm undecided as to whether I would bother to contribute to non-free.org > if Suffield's GR passes. I couldn't care less about a couple of my > non-free packages, but I know that a few of them are quite important to > our CJK users.

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-16 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 05:47:25PM -0500, Clint Adams wrote: > > To our users who were used to quality packages from accountable > > maintainers even if the software wasn't 100% DFSG-compliant: bummer, man. > > Out of date in non-free by arch > --- > alpha 72 > arm

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 10:15:02PM -0500, Evan Prodromou wrote: > > "HM" == Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > HM> Perhaps it is, but is that important? Anyone who works on > HM> non-free is volunteering their time to do so. Nobody is being > HM> forced or coerced. So

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
(No need to CC me.) On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 05:47:25PM -0500, Clint Adams wrote: > > To our users who were used to quality packages from accountable > > maintainers even if the software wasn't 100% DFSG-compliant: bummer, man. > > Out of date in non-free by arch > ---

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-16 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 10:15:02PM -0500, Evan Prodromou wrote: > > "HM" == Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > HM> To our users who were used to quality packages from > HM> accountable maintainers even if the software wasn't 100% > HM> DFSG-compliant: bummer, man. > > The

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-15 Thread Evan Prodromou
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > "HM" == Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Me> Having Debian-the-project put time or effort into anything Me> that isn't Debian-the-OS is wasteful. HM> Perhaps it is, but is that important? Anyone who works on HM> non-fr

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-15 Thread Clint Adams
> To our users who were used to quality packages from accountable > maintainers even if the software wasn't 100% DFSG-compliant: bummer, man. Out of date in non-free by arch --- alpha72 arm 78 hppa 72 i386 6 ia64 67 m68k 59 mips101 mipsel