Re: new release process (package pool) being proposed

1999-11-01 Thread Fabien Ninoles
On Tue, Oct 26, 1999 at 11:36:30AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 07:37:55AM -0700, Robert Jones wrote: > > Quoth Anthony Towns on 25 Oct, 1999: > > > All this `I've got a proposal, let's vote on it' stuff isn't quite right. > We didn't vote on debconf, we discussed it, the

Re: new release process (package pool) being proposed

1999-10-26 Thread Robert Jones
Quoth Anthony Towns on 26 Oct, 1999: > > Quoth Anthony Towns on 25 Oct, 1999: > (Saith?) Hrm. Perhaps. > Without a prototype, we shouldn't be voting. Throwing out ideas, > is fine, we've alreay done a lot of that, even before Lalo said > anything. Personally, I was finally getting around to try

Re: new release process (package pool) being proposed

1999-10-26 Thread Lalo Martins
On Tue, Oct 26, 1999 at 11:27:06AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 05:29:46PM -0200, Lalo Martins wrote: > > [package-pool/hardlinks/mirror bandwidth efficiency] > > Jason informs me this is already done by rsync, and we're > > moving our mirrors to rsync, so, this is already

Re: new release process (package pool) being proposed

1999-10-26 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 07:37:55AM -0700, Robert Jones wrote: > Quoth Anthony Towns on 25 Oct, 1999: (Saith?) > [ Disclaimer: I am not a Debian developer yet, due to the new-maintainer *sigh* > > First, proposals without code are pointless. They're fun and all to > > discuss and such, but they

Re: new release process (package pool) being proposed

1999-10-26 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 05:29:46PM -0200, Lalo Martins wrote: [package-pool/hardlinks/mirror bandwidth efficiency] > Jason informs me this is already done by rsync, and we're > moving our mirrors to rsync, so, this is already solved > regardless of whether we want to use the Incremental process or

Re: new release process (package pool) being proposed

1999-10-25 Thread Lalo Martins
On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 04:06:27PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 03:18:47AM -0200, Lalo Martins wrote: > > Also, could you people please stop for a moment and really evaluate > > the ammount of code needed? Get real: this is _trivial_. > > We'd need code to: > > * ma

Re: new release process (package pool) being proposed

1999-10-25 Thread Lalo Martins
On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 01:30:44PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Martin Schulze wrote: > > > Thus if the project (or the project leader) wants things to be > > done with the archive, the ftpmasters have to get it implemented > > (with or without help from others) or they will have to

Re: new release process (package pool) being proposed

1999-10-25 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Martin Schulze wrote: > Then why? Does a proper bug report exist? Is it just slowly processing > bug report? Or is it something else? There is indeed a bugreport, and it's old. Months at least. Last I heard the only reason was that it was a lot of work... Wichert. -- __

Re: new release process (package pool) being proposed

1999-10-25 Thread Martin Schulze
Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > The ftpmasters do their work for the project. They exist > > on behalf of the project. The project does not exist as result > > of the ftpmasters, it's vice versa. > > True. However that doesn't always seem to work that way. A good example > is that we have a consensu

Re: new release process (package pool) being proposed

1999-10-25 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Martin Schulze wrote: > Apparently I wasn't clear enough. I had already posted by then... > The ftpmasters do their work for the project. They exist > on behalf of the project. The project does not exist as result > of the ftpmasters, it's vice versa. True. However that doesn't alwa

Re: new release process (package pool) being proposed

1999-10-25 Thread Robert Jones
Quoth Anthony Towns on 25 Oct, 1999: [ Disclaimer: I am not a Debian developer yet, due to the new-maintainer freeze. I have been following the project for a while, however. Please forgive if this is out of order. ] > First, proposals without code are pointless. They're fun and all to > d

Re: new release process (package pool) being proposed

1999-10-25 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 03:18:47AM -0200, Lalo Martins wrote: > Also, could you people please stop for a moment and really evaluate > the ammount of code needed? Get real: this is _trivial_. We'd need code to: * make life easy for the mirrors (either a working package pool, or t

Re: new release process (package pool) being proposed

1999-10-25 Thread Lalo Martins
On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 08:32:07PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > That said, this proposal has no meaning without an actual implementation > of 'Package Pools', and none exists yet. However I know of at least 2 > efforts to make one, so maybe it should be shelved until one gets > finished? [It

Re: new release process (package pool) being proposed

1999-10-25 Thread Lalo Martins
On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 12:29:23PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 07:34:26PM -0200, Lalo Martins wrote: > > I'm formally proposing the release process that we have been > > discussing for over a year, known as ``package pool'', for > > discussion and voting. The discussion wi

Re: new release process (package pool) being proposed

1999-10-25 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
[Lame cross post to -announce removed, gah] > The ftpmasters do their work for the project. They exist > on behalf of the project. The project does not exist as result > of the ftpmasters, it's vice versa. However, the FTP masters are the resident experts in field of 'ftp archive mainti', igno

Re: new release process (package pool) being proposed

1999-10-25 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 07:34:26PM -0200, Lalo Martins wrote: > I'm formally proposing the release process that we have been > discussing for over a year, known as ``package pool'', for > discussion and voting. The discussion will take place on > debian-project. Anyone interested should follow this