Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-06 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Bernd Zeimetz writes: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Bernd Zeimetz writes: >> >>> Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > and it has numerous RC bugs. Lets see: http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/ia32-libs-tools.html RC bugs: 1 >>> There were 6 bugs when I looked at the page before

Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-06 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Bernd Zeimetz writes: > >> Goswin von Brederlow wrote: and it has numerous RC bugs. >>> Lets see: >>> http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/ia32-libs-tools.html >>> >>> RC bugs: 1 >> There were 6 bugs when I looked at the page before writing my mail, guess >> you've

Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-05 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Bernd Zeimetz writes: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >>> and it has numerous RC bugs. >> >> Lets see: >> http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/ia32-libs-tools.html >> >> RC bugs: 1 > > There were 6 bugs when I looked at the page before writing my mail, guess > you've > merged/downgraded/... the other

Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-05 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> and it has numerous RC bugs. > > Lets see: > http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/ia32-libs-tools.html > > RC bugs: 1 There were 6 bugs when I looked at the page before writing my mail, guess you've merged/downgraded/... the others.I should have added another one - brea

Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-05 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve Langasek writes: > On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 12:20:08PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> The upgrade path to multiarch is for the multiarch i386 deb to >> Conflicts/Replaces: . Which >> means ia32-libs or ia32-libs-gtk for the old system or ia32- >> for the ia32-apt-get one. > > If this

Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-05 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 12:20:08PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > The upgrade path to multiarch is for the multiarch i386 deb to > Conflicts/Replaces: . Which > means ia32-libs or ia32-libs-gtk for the old system or ia32- > for the ia32-apt-get one. If this means ia32-apt-get is installing f

Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-05 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Pierre Habouzit writes: > On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 11:30:12PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Yannick writes: >> >> > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> > >> >> And hey, the "good" reason was "diverting the package management tools >> >> is unacceptable". But, no, we have to do insults instead

Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-05 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 11:30:12PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Yannick writes: > > > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > >> And hey, the "good" reason was "diverting the package management tools > >> is unacceptable". But, no, we have to do insults instead of arguing. > > > > Alas, despite

Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Yannick writes: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> And hey, the "good" reason was "diverting the package management tools >> is unacceptable". But, no, we have to do insults instead of arguing. > > Alas, despite the diversion of the package management tools, I find ia32- > apt-get pretty useful.

Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-04 Thread Yannick
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > And hey, the "good" reason was "diverting the package management tools > is unacceptable". But, no, we have to do insults instead of arguing. Alas, despite the diversion of the package management tools, I find ia32- apt-get pretty useful. For instance, I wanted to t

Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Josselin Mouette writes: > Le vendredi 03 juillet 2009 à 14:59 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a > écrit : >> > Do you *really* want to have more reasons? >> >> I would settle for one good one. :) > > OK, let’s try one that you can understand. Try picturing a bridge. > ia32-libs-tools is trying

Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-04 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 03 juillet 2009 à 14:59 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : > > Do you *really* want to have more reasons? > > I would settle for one good one. :) OK, let’s try one that you can understand. Try picturing a bridge. ia32-libs-tools is trying to cross the bridge, but there is Ganneff s

Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-03 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Bernd Zeimetz writes: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Please do files bugs about issues you consider blockers for >> ia32-libs-tools and squeeze and please include if that applies even if >> there is the old ia32-libs in parallel to it (i.e. when it doesn't get >> pulled in on upgrades). > > T

Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-03 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Bastian Blank writes: > On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 10:28:24AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Last I heart s390 planed to drop 31bit support and go fully 64bit. > > This was the plan. However I don't know if it is the best solution. The > fact is: only Debian and SuSE still supports a complete

Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-03 Thread Bastian Blank
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 10:28:24AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Last I heart s390 planed to drop 31bit support and go fully 64bit. This was the plan. However I don't know if it is the best solution. The fact is: only Debian and SuSE still supports a complete 31bit userland. RHEL is release

Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-03 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Please do files bugs about issues you consider blockers for > ia32-libs-tools and squeeze and please include if that applies even if > there is the old ia32-libs in parallel to it (i.e. when it doesn't get > pulled in on upgrades). The package is a mess, the idea is

Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-03 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve Langasek writes: > On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 01:18:14AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> There is only one thing that DAK might want to adapt to. For most >> multiarch architectures there is a definite main architecture that >> most things should be in and then some corner cases where di

Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 01:18:14AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > There is only one thing that DAK might want to adapt to. For most > multiarch architectures there is a definite main architecture that > most things should be in and then some corner cases where different > architetcure might b

Re: ia32-libs{-tools}, multiarch, squeeze

2009-07-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Joerg Jaspert writes: > Hello world, > > (Please remember that we can only speak for ourselves and not the > security/release/any other teams, individuals or other sentient beings.) > > During the recent discussion about about ia32-libs{,-gtk,-tools} there were > various requests for removal / co