Re: Inbound trademark policy, round 3

2013-01-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 04:14:11PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > I volunteered to Stefano to try to summarise and synthesise the > discussion about our inbound trademark licence policy. Thanks Ian, it's much appreciated and very useful! > Rought consensus: > 1. DFSG principles should apply. > 2.

Re: Inbound trademark policy, round 3

2013-01-10 Thread Uoti Urpala
Ian Jackson wrote: > Uoti Urpala writes ("Re: Inbound trademark policy, round 3"): > > Ian Jackson wrote: > > > 1. DFSG principles should apply. > > > > IMO taking this as a starting point is completely wrong. DFSG guarantees > > that incompet

Re: Inbound trademark policy, round 3

2013-01-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Uoti Urpala writes ("Re: Inbound trademark policy, round 3"): > Ian Jackson wrote: > > 1. DFSG principles should apply. > > IMO taking this as a starting point is completely wrong. DFSG guarantees > that incompetent and malicious people may freely modify the softw

Re: Inbound trademark policy, round 3

2013-01-09 Thread Russ Allbery
Uoti Urpala writes: > Russ Allbery wrote: >> DFSG #4 is narrower than the possible actions that could be required by >> a trademark policy, at least in the way that we've normally interpreted >> it, since we've not interpreted it as allowing the renaming to affect >> functional elements of the pr

Re: Inbound trademark policy, round 3

2013-01-09 Thread Uoti Urpala
Russ Allbery wrote: > Uoti Urpala writes: > > DFSG allow a rename requirement; this means any trademark policy > > whatsoever cannot violate DFSG as long as it allows distributing > > unmodified sources and binaries, as you can always rename and then > > ignore the trademark policy. > > DFSG #4 i

Re: Inbound trademark policy, round 3

2013-01-09 Thread Russ Allbery
Uoti Urpala writes: > DFSG allow a rename requirement; this means any trademark policy > whatsoever cannot violate DFSG as long as it allows distributing > unmodified sources and binaries, as you can always rename and then > ignore the trademark policy. DFSG #4 is narrower than the possible acti

Re: Inbound trademark policy, round 3

2013-01-09 Thread Uoti Urpala
Don Armstrong wrote: > On Wed, 09 Jan 2013, Uoti Urpala wrote: > > Ian Jackson wrote: > > > 1. DFSG principles should apply. > > > > IMO taking this as a starting point is completely wrong. DFSG > > guarantees that incompetent and malicious people may freely modify > > the software. For trademark

Re: Inbound trademark policy, round 3

2013-01-09 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 09 Jan 2013, Uoti Urpala wrote: > Ian Jackson wrote: > > 1. DFSG principles should apply. > > IMO taking this as a starting point is completely wrong. DFSG > guarantees that incompetent and malicious people may freely modify > the software. For trademarks to have any meaning at all, > dis

Re: Inbound trademark policy, round 3

2013-01-09 Thread Uoti Urpala
Ian Jackson wrote: > 1. DFSG principles should apply. IMO taking this as a starting point is completely wrong. DFSG guarantees that incompetent and malicious people may freely modify the software. For trademarks to have any meaning at all, distributing those modified versions under the original t