Re: FW: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 7:46 PM Philip Hands wrote: > Of course, Grml isn't a direct output of the Debian project, so perhaps > people might take issue with having that as the "Debian Recovery > Option", but it is closely based on Debian, and includes a couple of > ways of installing vanilla Debian

Re: FW: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-05 Thread Philip Hands
Mark Pearson writes: >>> 3. Rescue partition >>> >>> Laptop manufacturers usually don't ship with physical media anymore. >>> Instead, the laptops have a rescue partition on them for >>> re-installing/resetting the machine. >>> >>> As far as I know both installers we currently use in Debian are f

Re: Re: FW: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-04 Thread Hideki Yamane
Hi, Thank you for your mail. In short term, Lenovo cannot provide Debian pre-installed laptops since there are some blockers for it. But they want to give better experience with Linux for their laptop users, including Debian. So, we can continue to talk with them, will try to find the root

Re: FW: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Mark Pearson
Hi Jonathan On 6/3/2020 4:40 PM, Jonathan Carter wrote: Hey Mark On 2020/06/03 20:24, Mark Pearson wrote: In my mind the best long term solution for Debian is if Lenovo are contributing fixes ourselves - after all we usually know what the fixes are. We're not technically at the stage where t

Re: FW: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hey Mark On 2020/06/03 20:24, Mark Pearson wrote: >>> 1. Support >>> >>> I'm not sure what you did in the case with Fedora, but my guess is you >>> have some agreement with how to handle support calls for Fedora on the >>> system. Debian isn't backed by any one company, and in the immediate >>> fu

Re: FW: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux

2020-06-03 Thread Mark Pearson
Hi Jonathan Thanks for the follow up. Also - apologies as I realised I used my non-linux friendly email account for my original posting with all the horrible outlook mangling. I'm posting this from my alternative account which avoids outlook (I'm just transitioning between the two accounts...