[Gunnar Wolf]
> Some of the big distributions have no moral problem in including
> Adobe's propietary plugin, though. We do.
Really? I was not aware that it was a moral issue. I thought it was
a question of licensing, where the license from Adobe prohibited
distribution on the web by third part
Giacomo A. Catenazzi dijo [Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 02:10:55PM +0200]:
>> A working free software implementation of the flash web plugin is a
>> requirement for Debian to provide a complete free software based
>> desktop. At the moment flash is used on so many web sites that the
>> common user will no
Hi, Bernd:
On Wednesday 16 September 2009 19:14:41 Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
> > Some months ago Debian asked for sponsored hardware:
> > http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090208
> >
> > I did not read any news about his, so maybe we could use some
> > money for such infra
Hello,
It is worth to consider some key face to face and summits with OEMs [0] and
potential partners [1], along with funding developers meetings.
Canonical is already doing [0], as it is very needed. If I recall correctly some
time ago Michlmayr traveled to Asia for some oem meetings.
As an exampl
]] Bernd Zeimetz
| Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
|
| > No need for SAN, direct-attached SAS or a SAS enclosure would be sufficient
| > for both snapshot.d.o and data.d.o (with a proper hardware-raid controller
|
| Remember, both services might start to grow pretty fast. A direct-attached
|
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> No need for SAN, direct-attached SAS or a SAS enclosure would be sufficient
> for both snapshot.d.o and data.d.o (with a proper hardware-raid controller
Remember, both services might start to grow pretty fast. A direct-attached
enclosure does not grow... (yeah
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
> > Some months ago Debian asked for sponsored hardware:
> > http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090208
> >
> > I did not read any news about his, so maybe we could use some
> > money for such infrastructure hardware.
>
> We we
> The main target of Debian Project is to produce the free and most
> reliable linux distribution in the world.
Debian it's our 'product' and we are (very) proud of it.
And we also believe it's good to share it.
--> media to share it: Debian releases are media images full of free software.
I
Hello!
The main target of Debian Project is to produce the free and most
reliable linux distribution in the world. Developers donate their free
time to project, while users donate money. I think you should use that
money to assure that developers don't have to spent their private money
for
Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
> Some months ago Debian asked for sponsored hardware:
> http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090208
>
> I did not read any news about his, so maybe we could use some
> money for such infrastructure hardware.
We were and are still hoping to get at least one machine sponso
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 06:42:46PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> Russ Allbery wrote:
> > Charles Plessy writes:
> > > [...] but Debian could support companies started by its developers
> > > to make a living of their Debian-related activities, by contributing to
> > > their capital. [...]
> >
> > We c
MJ Ray writes:
> Russ Allbery wrote:
>> We can't do that with moneys collected in the United States under the
>> aegis of Software in the Public Interest. It would jeopardize the
>> non-profit status of SPI. Non-profit charities are not permitted to
>> make investments in for-profit businesses
Russ Allbery wrote:
> Charles Plessy writes:
> > [...] but Debian could support companies started by its developers
> > to make a living of their Debian-related activities, by contributing to
> > their capital. [...]
>
> We can't do that with moneys collected in the United States under the
> ae
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:25:52AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Charles Plessy writes:
>
> > I forsee that it is very difficult because of the hundreds of borders in
> > our world, but Debian could support companies started by its developers
> > to make a living of their Debian-related activities
Sune Vuorela writes:
> On 2009-09-09, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>>c marketing to new developers: posters to put up at universities?
>> T-shirts or other gifts for new people working on bug-fixes,
>> translations etc.? Could be useful, but again expensive.
>> Thoughts?
> I have so
Charles Plessy writes:
> I forsee that it is very difficult because of the hundreds of borders in
> our world, but Debian could support companies started by its developers
> to make a living of their Debian-related activities, by contributing to
> their capital. This way, Debian would invest in
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 05:49:18PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Hello Steve and everybody,
>
> I forsee that it is very difficult because of the hundreds of borders in our
> world, but Debian could support companies started by its developers to make a
> living of their Debian-related activities,
Sune Vuorela wrote:
> On 2009-09-09, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> 1 New hardware / equipment
>>
>>a The DSA team have a wishlist of new hardware they'd like, along
>> with a set of donated machines that need configuring and/or
>> shipping. As far as I'm concerned, so long as the individ
On 2009-09-09, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> 1 New hardware / equipment
>
>a The DSA team have a wishlist of new hardware they'd like, along
> with a set of donated machines that need configuring and/or
> shipping. As far as I'm concerned, so long as the individual
> requests here lo
Hello Steve and everybody,
I forsee that it is very difficult because of the hundreds of borders in our
world, but Debian could support companies started by its developers to make a
living of their Debian-related activities, by contributing to their capital.
This way, Debian would invest in its ow
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 05:04:42PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote:
> * Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt [2009-09-10 16:01]:
> > Steve McIntyre writes:
> > > 4 Marketing stuff:
> > >a box(es) of equipment to take to stands at various shows and
> > > expos. Might be useful, but could be expensive. Where d
Hi,
We have a significant amount of money, but I would not define it as a
"huge amount".
> There's quite a long list, in *rough* order of the priority I would
> (personally) give them so far.
> 1 New hardware / equipment
> 2 Fund developer gatherings:
My full support to spend money on thi
> Steve McIntyre writes:
> > 4 Marketing stuff:
> >a box(es) of equipment to take to stands at various shows and
> > expos. Might be useful, but could be expensive. Where do we store
> > it/them? Who organises shipping?
>
> I think this is something which we should pursue. I genera
Hi,
Jesús M. Navarro wrote:
Yes. There's a kindof "market point" I've been wishing on Debian for
years "knowing" that it simply could happen: certifications and generally
rising attention to commercial producers, both hardware and (free/open)
software.
I think there's right now a thread on
Marc Haber wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 06:19:21PM +0200, Harald Geyer wrote:
> > Well, after the dunc-tank desaster I started to recommend to people
> > not to donate any money to debian at all but to upstreams instead,
> > because "debian has more money than it needs and giving more money t
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 06:19:21PM +0200, Harald Geyer wrote:
> Well, after the dunc-tank desaster I started to recommend to people
> not to donate any money to debian at all but to upstreams instead,
> because "debian has more money than it needs and giving more money to
> debian only will cause
Hey Steve,
Even though I'm an Ubuntu blank sheep, I'm hoping to be a Debian black
sheep too. So I've put together my thoughts on your money problems
linked below.
Conclusion: I feel like we should be thinking about automating some of
the mechanisms in which money is involved and more importantly,
Hi, Alexander:
On Thursday 10 September 2009 22:11:24 Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Jesús M. Navarro schrieb:
> >> 4 Marketing stuff:
>
> [..]
>
> > So, if Debian can be truly so great for companies from IBM to Alfresco,
> > to Oracle (and the end result can be so great for we, mere
Hi!
Jesús M. Navarro schrieb:
>> 4 Marketing stuff:
[..]
> So, if Debian can be truly so great for companies from IBM to Alfresco, to
> Oracle (and the end result can be so great for we, mere users), how is it
> that we won't have "certified" stuff from them? It can't be the platform or
> e
Josselin Mouette writes:
> Le jeudi 10 septembre 2009 à 00:57 +0100, Steve McIntyre a écrit :
>> 1 New hardware / equipment
>>
>>a The DSA team have a wishlist of new hardware they'd like […]
> Full ack. Hardware is not that expensive, lack of hardware should not
> hold back any of our dev
Hi, Steve:
On Thursday 10 September 2009 01:57:14 Steve McIntyre wrote:
[...]
> 4 Marketing stuff:
Yes. There's a kindof "market point" I've been wishing on Debian for
years "knowing" that it simply could happen: certifications and generally
rising attention to commercial producers, both har
Frans Pop :
> IMO it is not up to us to decide to pass on money donated to us to other
> projects. If sponsors and donors feel Gnash is worth sponsoring, they
> will do so themselves. Money donated to Debian should be spent on Debian.
I'm not a DD but I already helped runnning debian booths in
Hi,
* Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt [2009-09-10 16:01]:
> Steve McIntyre writes:
> > 4 Marketing stuff:
> >a box(es) of equipment to take to stands at various shows and
> > expos. Might be useful, but could be expensive. Where do we store
> > it/them? Who organises shipping?
>
> I think
Hi,
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [Giacomo A. Catenazzi]
>> It is useful not only for Debian, so IMHO Debian could donate some
>> money, but only if other big distributions (RedHat, SuSe/Novel,
>> Ubuntu, etc.) do the same.
>
> I find this to be a rather useless re
[Giacomo A. Catenazzi]
> It is useful not only for Debian, so IMHO Debian could donate some
> money, but only if other big distributions (RedHat, SuSe/Novel,
> Ubuntu, etc.) do the same.
I find this to be a rather useless requirement to have, unless the
goal is to do nothing. If something is a go
On Thursday 10 September 2009, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
> It is useful not only for Debian, so IMHO Debian could donate some
> money, but only if other big distributions (RedHat, SuSe/Novel, Ubuntu,
> etc.) do the same.
Even then not IMO. Those other distributions are commercial, Debian is
not
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
[Frans Pop]
b Gnash. Petter is very keen on this, but I'm not so sure. Don't
they have other ways to get funding? Thoughts?
I don't think Debian as a project should sponsor upstream
development. That's up to individual DDs.
A working free software implemen
[Frans Pop]
>> 6 Fund other related projects
>>
>>a Debian Edu. Clearly good for us to do - heavily linked with
>> Debian.
>
> Not sure about that. IMO it's up to the schools and governmental
> institutions that use Debian Edu to sponsor that. However, I have
> no problem with Debian sp
Frans Pop wrote:
> On Thursday 10 September 2009, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > 5 Pay people to do stuff we don't/can't/won't:
>
> g website redesign and restructuring
>This is something we seem unable to make any progress at and that
>is very much overdue. Especially the restruc
On Thursday 10 September 2009, Frans Pop wrote:
> > 6 Fund other related projects
> >
> > b Gnash. Petter is very keen on this, but I'm not so sure. Don't
> > they have other ways to get funding? Thoughts?
>
> I don't think Debian as a project should sponsor upstream development.
> That's
On 2009-09-10, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Thursday 10 September 2009, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> 5 Pay people to do stuff we don't/can't/won't:
>
> g website redesign and restructuring
>This is something we seem unable to make any progress at and that
>is very much overdue. Especial
Steve McIntyre writes:
> 4 Marketing stuff:
>a box(es) of equipment to take to stands at various shows and
> expos. Might be useful, but could be expensive. Where do we store
> it/them? Who organises shipping?
I think this is something which we should pursue. I generally have the
i
On Thursday 10 September 2009, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> 5 Pay people to do stuff we don't/can't/won't:
g website redesign and restructuring
This is something we seem unable to make any progress at and that
is very much overdue. Especially the restructuring part would
invo
2009-09-10, Steve McIntyre:
> Hi folks,
>
> Suggestions and comments from others
>
>
[...]
>
> 6 Fund other related projects
>
>a Debian Edu. Clearly good for us to do - heavily linked with
> Debian.
>
I think that this could be really intere
Steve McIntyre wrote:
1 New hardware / equipment
a The DSA team have a wishlist of new hardware they'd like, along
with a set of donated machines that need configuring and/or
shipping. As far as I'm concerned, so long as the individual
requests here look reasonable then they
Le jeudi 10 septembre 2009 à 00:57 +0100, Steve McIntyre a écrit :
> 1 New hardware / equipment
>
>a The DSA team have a wishlist of new hardware they'd like […]
Full ack. Hardware is not that expensive, lack of hardware should not
hold back any of our development.
> b Maintainers of big pa
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:52:37AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
> > It seems to me that these consulting businesses would be good
> > addresses to ask for sponsorship of a Debian/GNU/Linux booth if there
> > is no way getting a free booth for a charitable association such as
> > the Debian Project
Martin Schulze wrote:
> Thomas Koch wrote:
> > > Thomas Koch wrote:
> > > > There's a german association, "Linux user in der Kirche"[1] (Linux user
> > > > in the church), which plans to organize a booth on the next big meeting
> > > > of the german church in 2010.
> > > > They aim is to promote th
Thomas Koch wrote:
> > Thomas Koch wrote:
> > > There's a german association, "Linux user in der Kirche"[1] (Linux user
> > > in the church), which plans to organize a booth on the next big meeting
> > > of the german church in 2010.
> > > They aim is to promote the usage of linux in the administra
> Thomas Koch wrote:
> > There's a german association, "Linux user in der Kirche"[1] (Linux user
> > in the church), which plans to organize a booth on the next big meeting
> > of the german church in 2010.
> > They aim is to promote the usage of linux in the administrations of
> > church communiti
Thomas Koch wrote:
> There's a german association, "Linux user in der Kirche"[1] (Linux user in
> the
> church), which plans to organize a booth on the next big meeting of the
> german
> church in 2010.
> They aim is to promote the usage of linux in the administrations of church
> communities
There's a german association, "Linux user in der Kirche"[1] (Linux user in the
church), which plans to organize a booth on the next big meeting of the german
church in 2010.
They aim is to promote the usage of linux in the administrations of church
communities and of course private use of linux.
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