Re: DEP5: Public domain works

2011-01-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:47:08PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:47:20PM +0100, Bernhard R. Link a écrit : 3) public domain in some domains only. For example works made by US goverment employees. Those are public domain in the US, but you will need a license els

Re: DEP5: Public domain works

2011-01-20 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Charles Plessy [110120 15:51]: > Here is for instance most of the content of the copyright file of the > ncbi-tools6 package: > > Copyright: > > The NCBI toolkit has been put into the public domain, completely unfettered: > > PUBLIC DOMAIN NOTICE >

Re: DEP5: Public domain works

2011-01-20 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:47:20PM +0100, Bernhard R. Link a écrit : > > 3) public domain in some domains only. For example works made by US >goverment employees. Those are public domain in the US, but you will >need a license elsewhere. […] > Note that 4) is the only public domain that

Re: DEP5: Public domain works

2011-01-20 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Russ Allbery [110119 02:03]: > However, the caveat is that we maybe should say something about not using > the public-domain keyword for things that aren't actually in the public > domain but just have a license saying "this is in the public domain" or > "you can treat this as if it's in the pub

Re: DEP5: Public domain works

2011-01-19 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ke, 2011-01-19 at 20:55 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > That appeared inappropriately line-wrapped when I received it. Here it > is as an attachment. Applied, thanks. -- Blog/wiki/website hosting with ikiwiki (free for free software): http://www.branchable.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debia

Re: DEP5: Public domain works

2011-01-19 Thread Ben Finney
Lars Wirzenius writes: > On ti, 2011-01-18 at 17:03 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > I'm happy to see public domain added as a license keyword. > > This is the consensus, it seems. Would anyone like to suggest a patch > to implement it? Here's my proposal: === modified file 'dep5.mdwn' --- dep5.m

Re: DEP5: Public domain works

2011-01-18 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ti, 2011-01-18 at 17:03 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > I'm happy to see public domain added as a license keyword. This is the consensus, it seems. Would anyone like to suggest a patch to implement it? -- Blog/wiki/website hosting with ikiwiki (free for free software): http://www.branchable.com/

Re: DEP5: Public domain works

2011-01-18 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Russ Allbery dijo [Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 05:03:22PM -0800]: > I'm happy to see public domain added as a license keyword. (I'd rather > the keyword be something like public-domain, not PD, but that's somewhat > bikeshed painting.) I think the subsequent lines of the License field in > that case sho

Re: DEP5: Public domain works

2011-01-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 05:03:22PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: we maybe should say something about not using the public-domain keyword for things that aren't actually in the public domain but just have a license saying "this is in the public domain" or "you can treat this as if it's in the publi

Re: DEP5: Public domain works

2011-01-18 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonas Smedegaard writes: > Here's how I currently treat PD in Debian packaging: > Copyright statement + "is in the Public Domain": DFSG-nonfree, because > either a) it really is in the Public Domain and then cannot at the same > time be upheld by a copyright, or b) is not really in the Public Do

Re: DEP5: Public domain works

2011-01-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 05:03:22PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Charles Plessy writes: Le Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 09:24:30AM -0500, Michael Terry a écrit : The current situation means that public domain files are not likely to be recognizable in a machine-readable way. This is a good point and

Re: DEP5: Public domain works

2011-01-18 Thread Russ Allbery
Charles Plessy writes: > Le Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 09:24:30AM -0500, Michael Terry a écrit : >> The current situation means that public domain files are not likely to >> be recognizable in a machine-readable way. > This is a good point and I realise that the thread started in August by > Colin Wat

Re: DEP5: Public domain works

2011-01-18 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 09:24:30AM -0500, Michael Terry a écrit : > > The current situation means that public domain files are not likely to > be recognizable in a machine-readable way. This is a good point and I realise that the thread started in August by Colin Watson ended witout a conclusion.

Re: DEP5: Public domain works

2011-01-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 09:24:30AM -0500, Michael Terry wrote: The spec is frustratingly vague when it comes to files in the public domain. The current version of the spec only mentions it once, to say that the Copyright field should note that there are no copyright holders. No guidance is give