Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project

2013-12-18 Thread Ian Jackson
Thorsten Glaser writes ("Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project"): > It has recently been “discovered” (i.e. the implications finally > arrived in peoples’ heads) that the AGPL prevents making available > embargoed security hotfixes (because you can’t deploy them because

Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project

2013-12-16 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Ian Jackson chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes: > (The main program I'm thinking of here is a Ruby on Rails > application.) What are people's feelings about AGPLv3 ? Completely beyond licencing (I’m firm on the BSD side of things ofc): It has recently been “discovered” (i.e. the implications f

Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project

2013-12-15 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Paul Tagliamonte , 2013-12-15, 10:02: As an additional permission, you may use, redistribute and/or modify this work under any DFSG (Debian Free Software Guidelines) free license, as interpreted by the Debian FTP Team, or the Debian Project by means of General Resolution. Examples of DFSG fre

Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project

2013-12-15 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:57:59AM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > I'd very very much prefer to do something like this for my Debian work, > even so far as to say that it can be used under the terms of any DFSG > free license - but I'm also perfectly cool to use {,A,L}GPL-{2,3}+ for my > work as w

Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project

2013-12-14 Thread Bill Allombert
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 12:32:59PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > Nevertheless your opinion is interesting to me [...] > > > > [explanations] > > Thanks for that. If you find clarification of the license that are grounded in the actual text and written by B. Kuhn or the FSF, please forward them

Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project

2013-12-13 Thread Ian Jackson
Bill Allombert writes ("Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project"): > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 07:45:14PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Perhaps I haven't looked in the right places but either I don't see > > the same concerns as you do, or I haven't

Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project

2013-12-12 Thread Bill Allombert
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 07:45:14PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Bill Allombert writes ("Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project"): > > I am fine with the stated purpose of the AGPLv3, however I do not think the > > actual implementation is compatible with free softwar

Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project

2013-12-12 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 06:35:05PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Of course that only applies to future versions of the GNU GPL. It's > not possible to switch from AGPL to GPL (or the other way) with that > wording. Indeed, just a datapoint for what other projects do. I'd be fine to include in my De

Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project

2013-12-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Bill Allombert writes ("Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project"): > I am fine with the stated purpose of the AGPLv3, however I do not think the > actual implementation is compatible with free software. > > There have been no official clarification how the AGPLv3 is s

Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project

2013-12-12 Thread Eitan Adler
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > Eitan Adler writes ("Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project"): >> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Ian Jackson >> wrote: >> > * Personally I'm an AGPLv3 proponent. The system ought to be suita

Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project

2013-12-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Eitan Adler writes ("Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project"): > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Ian Jackson > wrote: > > Eitan Adler writes ("Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project"): > >> [AGPLv3] is the least-free license currently

Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project

2013-12-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Paul Tagliamonte writes ("Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project"): > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 02:44:19PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or > > modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public Licens

Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project

2013-12-12 Thread Bill Allombert
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 02:44:19PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > * Personally I'm an AGPLv3 proponent. The system ought to be suitable > for AGPLv3 provided that its submodules are AGPLv3-compatible (and > if they aren't, then we can probably write a licence exception). > (The main program I'm

Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project

2013-12-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Eitan Adler writes ("Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project"): > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Ian Jackson > wrote: > > * Personally I'm an AGPLv3 proponent. The system ought to be suitable > > for AGPLv3 provided that its submodules are AGPLv3-com

Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project

2013-12-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Joshua D. Drake writes ("Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project"): > On 12/12/2013 06:44 AM, Ian Jackson wrote: > > * It would clearly be sensible to appoint a licence steward in the > >GPLv3 sense. If the current project leadership lack free software > >

Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project

2013-12-12 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 02:44:19PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > (This is a bit off-topic for the Debian list; I hope people won't mind > me asking opinions here though.) > > I'm being asked for advice on encouraging contributions by the people > behind a couple of "community-ish" websites which I u

Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project

2013-12-12 Thread Eitan Adler
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Ian Jackson wrote: > * It would clearly be sensible to appoint a licence steward in the > GPLv3 sense. If the current project leadership lack free software > credibility, could SPI serve as licence steward ? On this I can not comment. > What instructions/d

Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project

2013-12-12 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On 12/12/2013 06:44 AM, Ian Jackson wrote: (This is a bit off-topic for the Debian list; I hope people won't mind me asking opinions here though.) I'm being asked for advice on encouraging contributions by the people behind a couple of "community-ish" websites which I use regularly. There's a