Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog

2019-05-26 Thread Mathias Behrle
* Sam Hartman: " Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog" (Sat, 25 May 2019 18:37:11 -0400): > >>>>> "Mathias" == Mathias Behrle writes: > > Mathias> * Karsten Merker: " Re: Question f

Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog

2019-05-25 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Norbert" == Norbert Preining writes: Norbert> Hi Sam, surprising statements from you ... Norbert> On Wed, 22 May 2019, Sam Hartman wrote: >> The same is true of package maintainership though. We sometimes >> do change the maintainership because we're unhappy with how

Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog

2019-05-25 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Mathias" == Mathias Behrle writes: Mathias> * Karsten Merker: " Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Mathias> Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog" (Sat, 25 Mathias> May 2019 17:49:13 +0200): Mathias> Hi together, Mathias> I am supporting wholeheartedly th

Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog

2019-05-25 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Sam, surprising statements from you ... On Wed, 22 May 2019, Sam Hartman wrote: > The same is true of package maintainership though. We sometimes do > change the maintainership because we're unhappy with how someone > maintains their packages. That rarely uses the formal policy that goes ??

Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog

2019-05-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
On May 25, 2019 9:16:09 PM UTC, Holger Levsen wrote: >On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 05:49:13PM +0200, Karsten Merker wrote: >> b) The only case where I would consider a forced removal of >>somebody else's feed by somebody who is not part of planet >>admin to be justified would be if the furth

Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog

2019-05-25 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 05:49:13PM +0200, Karsten Merker wrote: > b) The only case where I would consider a forced removal of >somebody else's feed by somebody who is not part of planet >admin to be justified would be if the further inclusion of the >feed on planet would constitute a cr

Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog

2019-05-25 Thread Mathias Behrle
* Karsten Merker: " Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog" (Sat, 25 May 2019 17:49:13 +0200): Hi together, I am supporting wholeheartedly the view of Carsten with some small amendments. > a) As the general rule DDs who are not p

Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog

2019-05-22 Thread Ian Campbell
On Tue, 2019-05-21 at 18:27 +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: > If you make a bad upload, someone will be quick to point out to you > exactly which part of debian policy you've messed up and file an RC bug > against your package. Our community guidelines deserve to be on the same > standard, if a blog

Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog

2019-05-22 Thread Charles Plessy
Hi Phil, Le Wed, May 22, 2019 at 01:37:07PM +0200, Philip Hands a écrit : > > I see no reason to assume the worst. Maybe growth and the law of big numbers ? The more we are the more it is likely to happen. As somebody who had my work reverted temporarly by somebody who acted alone (although mo

Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog

2019-05-22 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Norbert" == Norbert Preining writes: Norbert> On Tue, 21 May 2019, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> I think it's more open and equally clean for someone who's blog >> has been non- consensually removed to be able to put it back >> themselves immediately (if they think the removal

Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog

2019-05-22 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Benj" == Benj Mako Hill writes: Benj> I'd be happy to document this on the Planet wiki page. I agree with Joerg that I don't think we need a lot of new rules here. I'll point out that the situation I asked about has never happened (although one close to it in some ways did), and it f

Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog

2019-05-22 Thread Philip Hands
Scott Kitterman writes: ... > I think defaulting to silencing people is the opposite of openness. It does not strike me as defaulting to silencing people, to allow the people we all effectively trust with root on all of our systems (DDs) to exercise their judgement, and very occasionally apply it

Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog

2019-05-22 Thread Norbert Preining
On Tue, 21 May 2019, Scott Kitterman wrote: > I think it's more open and equally clean for someone who's blog has been non- > consensually removed to be able to put it back themselves immediately (if > they > think the removal was unreasonable) and point the remover at the Planet > Debian > adm

Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog

2019-05-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, May 21, 2019 7:41:51 PM EDT Benj. Mako Hill wrote: > Greetings! > > I'm a planet admin although, as you suggest, I think this is outside > of the area of documented policy. > > > > > Imagine that I get a note from a random developer saying they have > > removed my blog from planet.

Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog

2019-05-21 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
Greetings! I'm a planet admin although, as you suggest, I think this is outside of the area of documented policy. > Imagine that I get a note from a random developer saying they have > removed my blog from planet. I understand what they are saying enough > to believe it is not vandalism; they h

Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog

2019-05-21 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 15409 March 1977, Sam Hartman wrote: Imagine that I get a note from a random developer saying they have removed my blog from planet. I understand what they are saying enough to believe it is not vandalism; they honestly believe I did something wrong. I can't understand from their message ho

Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog

2019-05-21 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Jonathan" == Jonathan Carter writes: >> 2) Ask the planet admins to respond to the situation and either >> help me understand the problem or add my blog back. Jonathan> Option number two seems like the entirely logical and Jonathan> reasonable approach. If it seems that yo

Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog

2019-05-21 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi Sam On 2019/05/21 12:15, Sam Hartman wrote: > Obviously this question is motivated by things that happened last year, > but I'm not asking about that situation, and the details of the question > I'm asking are intentionally different in ways that matter at least to > me. It's kind of hard to i

Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog

2019-05-21 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Ian" == Ian Jackson writes: Ian> Sam Hartman writes ("Question for Planet Admins: What Should I Ian> do if another Developer Removes my Blog"): >> Imagine that I get a note from a random developer saying they >> have removed my blog from planet. I understand what they are

Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog

2019-05-21 Thread Ian Jackson
Sam Hartman writes ("Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog"): > Imagine that I get a note from a random developer saying they have > removed my blog from planet. I understand what they are saying enough > to believe it is not vanda

Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog

2019-05-21 Thread Sam Hartman
Speaking as an individual, although some of the things that motivated me to actually go ahead and ask this question knowing that it might spark discussion were conversations I had as DPL. Obviously this question is motivated by things that happened last year, but I'm not asking about that situati