Re: Pride Month Discussion has Run its Course

2019-07-07 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Sat, 06 Jul 2019, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Sat, Jul 06, 2019 at 08:00:58PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > But that is my personal mindset I am coming from. If such a mindset is > > outdated nowadays and not wanted anymore I offer to resign as a listmaster. > > I think there are two sep

Re: Pride Month Discussion has Run its Course

2019-07-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On July 6, 2019 9:10:57 PM UTC, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: >On Sat, Jul 06, 2019 at 08:00:58PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: >> But that is my personal mindset I am coming from. If such a mindset >is >> outdated nowadays and not wanted anymore I offer to resign as a >listmaster. > >I think there

Re: Pride Month Discussion has Run its Course

2019-07-06 Thread Mathias Behrle
* Stefano Zacchiroli: " Re: Pride Month Discussion has Run its Course" (Sat, 6 Jul 2019 23:10:57 +0200): > I'm sure that was not your intention, but to bystanders that gives the > feeling that you're undermining the DPL's authority, and gets in the way > of th

Re: Pride Month Discussion has Run its Course

2019-07-06 Thread Mathias Behrle
* Alexander Wirt: " Re: Pride Month Discussion has Run its Course" (Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:00:58 +0200): > On Tue, 02 Jul 2019, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > > On 15451 March 1977, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > > [...] > > > Thats possible, but imho not a reaso

Re: Pride Month Discussion has Run its Course

2019-07-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Jul 06, 2019 at 08:00:58PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > But that is my personal mindset I am coming from. If such a mindset is > outdated nowadays and not wanted anymore I offer to resign as a listmaster. I think there are two separate aspects here. One is the "mindset" you're discussing

Re: Pride Month Discussion has Run its Course

2019-07-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Alexander Wirt - 06.07.19, 20:00: > On Tue, 02 Jul 2019, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > On 15451 March 1977, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > > > The tone is absolutely civilized. > > > > And yet, the cost to people who have to do this education again > > > > and > > > > again is really high. > > > > > > Thats

Re: Pride Month Discussion has Run its Course

2019-07-06 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Jul 06, 2019 at 06:32:10PM +, Scott Kitterman wrote: > It seems to me that if one is open to diversity of opinion, then there's > no need for someone to feel obligated to educate wrong thinkers. That's > only necessary if there's only one true answer, so anyone with a different > opini

Re: Pride Month Discussion has Run its Course

2019-07-06 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Sat, 06 Jul 2019, Alexander Wirt wrote: > On Tue, 02 Jul 2019, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > > On 15451 March 1977, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > > > > > The tone is absolutely civilized. > > > > And yet, the cost to people who have to do this education again and > > > > again is really high. > > > Th

Re: Pride Month Discussion has Run its Course

2019-07-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On July 6, 2019 6:00:58 PM UTC, Alexander Wirt wrote: >On Tue, 02 Jul 2019, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > >> On 15451 March 1977, Alexander Wirt wrote: >> >> > > The tone is absolutely civilized. >> > > And yet, the cost to people who have to do this education again >and >> > > again is really high.

Re: Pride Month Discussion has Run its Course

2019-07-06 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Tue, 02 Jul 2019, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 15451 March 1977, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > > > The tone is absolutely civilized. > > > And yet, the cost to people who have to do this education again and > > > again is really high. > > Thats possible, but imho not a reason to kill the thread. > >

Re: Pride Month Discussion has Run its Course

2019-07-06 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 15451 March 1977, Alexander Wirt wrote: The tone is absolutely civilized. And yet, the cost to people who have to do this education again and again is really high. Thats possible, but imho not a reason to kill the thread. It is a very good reason to do so, and its sad that our listmasters

Re: Pride Month Discussion has Run its Course

2019-07-02 Thread G. Branden Robinson
At 2019-07-02T08:42:43-0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > The tone is absolutely civilized. > > And yet, the cost to people who have to do this education again and > again is really high. Yes, and therein rests the utility of allies. Speaking for myself I'd like to endorse the contributions to this threa

Re: Pride Month Discussion has Run its Course

2019-07-02 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
I'm sorry Sam. I sent my last message before reading yours. I will now abstain from further posting. Gerardo

Re: Pride Month Discussion has Run its Course

2019-07-02 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Tue, 02 Jul 2019, Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Alexander" == Alexander Wirt writes: > > Alexander> On Tue, 02 Jul 2019, Sam Hartman wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> [listmaster copied in hopes they will agree with my assessment > >> here] > Alexander> I don't agree, I

Re: Pride Month Discussion has Run its Course

2019-07-02 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Alexander" == Alexander Wirt writes: Alexander> On Tue, 02 Jul 2019, Sam Hartman wrote: >> >> >> >> [listmaster copied in hopes they will agree with my assessment >> here] Alexander> I don't agree, I think that discussion is important and Alexander> the t

Re: Pride Month Discussion has Run its Course

2019-07-02 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Tue, 02 Jul 2019, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > > [listmaster copied in hopes they will agree with my assessment here] I don't agree, I think that discussion is important and the tone is still civilized. Alex - Listmaster - but mainly speaking for myself

Pride Month Discussion has Run its Course

2019-07-02 Thread Sam Hartman
[listmaster copied in hopes they will agree with my assessment here] The pride month discussion has gone beyond what's appropriate for debian-project at this point and has served its purpose. It's possible that small sub threads may have some value, but overall, I think that the discussion ha