Re: Paths into Debian

2013-10-01 Thread Chuck Peters
Moray Allan said: > > - Whether/how it would be useful to promote more local Debian groups I didn't see the Local Groups page mentioned. https://wiki.debian.org/LocalGroups I attended at least one of the group meetings more than 10 years ago, but the group is no longer active and I am not long

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-09-29 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 25/09/13 11:51, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > On Tue, September 24, 2013 14:02, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 07:51:53AM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: >>> Its not just you - while I appreciate using a word other than bitesized >>> or >>> low-hanging-fruit, I tend to get the

"Press path" (Re: Paths into Debian)

2013-09-29 Thread Filipus Klutiero
ally with the DPL or some veteran contributor, not with the kind of people we mean when discussing paths into Debian. The only way to deal with that is to either have people who know their topic inside out (e.g. because of long time Debian/free software involvement) or engaging experienced media han

ITS gift tag and specifying requirements in tickets (Re: Paths into Debian)

2013-09-28 Thread Filipus Klutiero
Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 24/09/13 at 08:37 +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > On Mon, September 23, 2013 14:46, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > Did you tag them 'gift'? > >https://wiki.debian.org/qa.debian.org/GiftTag > > This may just be me, as it's very personal, and no offense intended at > you, but I

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-09-25 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Tue, September 24, 2013 14:02, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 07:51:53AM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: >> Its not just you - while I appreciate using a word other than bitesized >> or >> low-hanging-fruit, I tend to get the same slightly off putting feeling >> about "gift"

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-09-24 Thread Russ Allbery
I think the original intent of "gift" was that fixing the bug would be a welcome and happy gift to the maintainer, rather than that the bug was a gift to the person fixing it from the maintainer. But I agree that doesn't come across all that clearly. Stefano Zacchiroli writes: > So, folks, what

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-09-24 Thread Martin Quinson
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 04:41:18PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 24/09/13 at 14:46 +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > > Can we use a word that is neutral and obvious? > > > > Maybe "trivial-to-fix" or something like that? > > Wouldn't new contributors feel bad if they can't fix a "trivial-to-f

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-09-24 Thread Victor Nițu
On 09/24/2013 05:41 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 24/09/13 at 14:46 +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> On 24/09/13 14:09, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Sep 24, 2013 8:03 AM, "Stefano Zacchiroli" >> > wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 07:51:53AM -0400, Paul Tagli

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-09-24 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 24/09/13 16:41, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 24/09/13 at 14:46 +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> On 24/09/13 14:09, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: >>> >>> On Sep 24, 2013 8:03 AM, "Stefano Zacchiroli" >> > wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 07:51:53AM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-09-24 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 24/09/13 at 14:46 +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > On 24/09/13 14:09, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > > > > > > On Sep 24, 2013 8:03 AM, "Stefano Zacchiroli" > > wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 07:51:53AM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > > > > Its not just you - while

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-09-24 Thread Alberto Fuentes
Btw, i didnt exaclty came up with debian-love myself https://wiki.gnome.org/GnomeLove On 24/09/13 14:05, Alberto Fuentes wrote: debian-love? :P On 24/09/13 14:02, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 07:51:53AM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: Its not just you - while I appreciate

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-09-24 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 24/09/13 14:09, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > > > On Sep 24, 2013 8:03 AM, "Stefano Zacchiroli" > wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 07:51:53AM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > > > Its not just you - while I appreciate using a word other than > bitesized or > > > low-han

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-09-24 Thread Alberto Fuentes
debian-love? :P On 24/09/13 14:02, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 07:51:53AM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: Its not just you - while I appreciate using a word other than bitesized or low-hanging-fruit, I tend to get the same slightly off putting feeling about "gift" Not to

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-09-24 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Sep 24, 2013 8:03 AM, "Stefano Zacchiroli" wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 07:51:53AM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > > Its not just you - while I appreciate using a word other than bitesized or > > low-hanging-fruit, I tend to get the same slightly off putting feeling > > about "gift" > >

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-09-24 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 24/09/13 at 08:37 +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > On Mon, September 23, 2013 14:46, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > Did you tag them 'gift'? > > https://wiki.debian.org/qa.debian.org/GiftTag > > This may just be me, as it's very personal, and no offense intended at > you, but I really detest the name

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-09-24 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 07:51:53AM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > Its not just you - while I appreciate using a word other than bitesized or > low-hanging-fruit, I tend to get the same slightly off putting feeling > about "gift" > > Not to bikeshead. So, folks, what do you propose instead? :)

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-09-24 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Sep 24, 2013 2:37 AM, "Thijs Kinkhorst" wrote: > > On Mon, September 23, 2013 14:46, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > Did you tag them 'gift'? > > https://wiki.debian.org/qa.debian.org/GiftTag > > This may just be me, as it's very personal, and no offense intended at > you, but I really detest the nam

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-09-23 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Mon, September 23, 2013 14:46, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Did you tag them 'gift'? > https://wiki.debian.org/qa.debian.org/GiftTag This may just be me, as it's very personal, and no offense intended at you, but I really detest the name 'gift' of that tag and that prevents me from using it. Taggin

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-09-23 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 23/09/13 19:31, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Lucas Nussbaum , 2013-09-23, 14:46: >> Alternatively, maybe we should review the current process for one-shot >> patches. Assuming that someone wants to fix a typo in a package and >> submit it as a patch, the current simpler process is (TTBOMK): >> >> 1.

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-09-23 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Lucas Nussbaum , 2013-09-23, 14:46: Alternatively, maybe we should review the current process for one-shot patches. Assuming that someone wants to fix a typo in a package and submit it as a patch, the current simpler process is (TTBOMK): 1. 'debcheckout packagename' (but this fails when the

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-09-23 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, On 22/09/13 at 12:46 +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > - I've started creating wishlist bugs in my packages, these provide > useful coding tasks for people, especially students. They are > particularly useful for GSoC applicants, because they need to > demonstrate their coding skills during the s

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-09-22 Thread Daniel Pocock
Just a few of my own comments, mainly from interacting with GSoC students, although this could be just as applicable to anybody: - While people joining the NM process or the mentors list are aiming to have some package added, students don't always come with a clear idea of some package they want

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-08-29 Thread Filipus Klutiero
Thank you Moray, and thanks to all other participants. Interesting topic, and good content. There's no limit to how much could be said on the topic, but I'd like to comment and add a bit [edit: or a lot]. I understand the talk's goals as easing the integration of new contributors in Debian. Ne

Re: DebConf slides (was Re: Paths into Debian)

2013-08-29 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Mittwoch, 28. August 2013, Moray Allan wrote: > On 2013-08-28 13:36, Andreas Tille wrote: > > Thanks for the pointer. It seems there is currently no way to submit > > slides to Penta. I also uploaded my slides to my talks page and > > added a > > link to this in Penta. Is this something

DebConf slides (was Re: Paths into Debian)

2013-08-28 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-08-28 13:36, Andreas Tille wrote: Thanks for the pointer. It seems there is currently no way to submit slides to Penta. I also uploaded my slides to my talks page and added a link to this in Penta. Is this something we should report or am I just missing something? Submitting slide

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-08-28 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Moray, On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 08:59:24PM +0100, Moray Allan wrote: > At DebConf13 I was interested to hear people's views in the > discussion session on "Paths into Debian". > > The video of the session is available here: > > http://meetings-archive.de

Paths into Debian / local groups

2013-08-25 Thread Christian Körner
Hi, As Moray pointed out in a previous post [1] we would like to encourage more local user groups. This is to provide personal contact to Debian people. Because during the "Paths into Debian" session one of the impressions was it would be easier for people who wants to join if they ha

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-08-24 Thread Jose Luis Rivas
On 8/24/13 5:03 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Hi Jose, > > Quoting Jose Luis Rivas (2013-08-24 02:34:28) >> I think we have missed opportunities to bring more people into >> Debian like not taking enough attention into support Raspberry >> Pi. [snip] > > That may seem a constructive point, but pl

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-08-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Jose, Quoting Jose Luis Rivas (2013-08-24 02:34:28) > I think we have missed opportunities to bring more people into Debian > like not taking enough attention into support Raspberry Pi. [snip] That may seem a constructive point, but please read https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi before cont

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-08-23 Thread Jose Luis Rivas
On 8/23/13 3:29 PM, Moray Allan wrote: > At DebConf13 I was interested to hear people's views in the discussion > session on "Paths into Debian". > > The video of the session is available here: > > http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/de

Re: Paths into Debian

2013-08-23 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-08-23 20:59, Moray Allan wrote: - What we advertise about routes in, compared to other distributions Not mentioned in the room, but relevant is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=608400 -- Moray -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Paths into Debian

2013-08-23 Thread Moray Allan
At DebConf13 I was interested to hear people's views in the discussion session on "Paths into Debian". The video of the session is available here: http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2013/debconf13/high/999_Paths_into_Debian.ogv http://meetings-archive.debian