Problem Install Notebook Acer Nitro 5 AN515-58 Intel i7 Geforce 3060.... Older Version 12.5.0 install is okay.. Newest Vwersion cannot Install

2024-12-28 Thread nommensen1...@gmail.com
Problem Install Notebook Acer Nitro 5 AN515-58 Intel i7 Geforce 3060 Older Version 12.5.0 install is okay.. Newest Vwersion cannot Install

Can’t get Debian to install to HDD

2023-08-07 Thread Lauryn Westwood
Hi, 4 times yesterday I went through the installation process only to get told there was no bootable OS on my SSD. I’ve used the net-install & gnome ISO’s - nothing. I get the same outcome. The USB boots but the SSD inside my laptop has no OS. I’ve used your installer - I’m a long term Fe

Re: Debian 12 install

2023-06-25 Thread RL
"Andrew M.A. Cater" writes: >> نوشته بود: >> > Hi, Just installed Debian 12 - have been using Debian since version 4 - >> > I was greeted with the Google & Microsoft account info - now no longer >> > using Debian - seriously how could you people do this - first Ubuntu now >> > Debian pretty disg

Re: Debian 12 install

2023-06-20 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 05:31:41PM +0330, Danial Behzadi wrote: > If this is not a trolling, Please decalre what are you talking about > exactly. > > در سه‌شنبه, ژوئن 20 2023 at ۱۳:۱۲:۴۱ +00:00:00, eladZ1i8 > نوشته بود: > > Hi, Just installed Debian 12 - have been using Debian since version 4 - >

Re: Debian 12 install

2023-06-20 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 6/20/23, Danial Behzadi wrote: > در سه‌شنبه, ژوئن 20 2023 at ۱۳:۱۲:۴۱ +00:00:00, > eladZ1i8 نوشته بود: >> Hi, Just installed Debian 12 - have been using Debian since version 4 >> - I was greeted with the Google & Microsoft account info - now no >> longer using Debian - seriously how could you

Re: Debian 12 install

2023-06-20 Thread Danial Behzadi
If this is not a trolling, Please decalre what are you talking about exactly. در سه‌شنبه, ژوئن 20 2023 at ۱۳:۱۲:۴۱ +00:00:00, eladZ1i8 نوشته بود: Hi, Just installed Debian 12 - have been using Debian since version 4 - I was greeted with the Google & Microsoft account info - now no longer usi

Debian 12 install

2023-06-20 Thread eladZ1i8
Hi, Just installed Debian 12 - have been using Debian since version 4 - I was greeted with the Google & Microsoft account info - now no longer using Debian - seriously how could you people do this - first Ubuntu now Debian pretty disgusting. regards Bob

Re: How to Fix the apt-get install error: “Media change: please insert the disc labeled ...” in Debian 10.

2020-11-19 Thread Geert Stappers
On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 04:04:55PM +0800, Edgar Villanueva Jr wrote: > I was amazed by the description that Debian is robust and reliable etc. So > I decided to install it. But when I try to install from terminal "Fix the > apt-get install error: “Media change: please insert th

Re: How to Fix the apt-get install error: “Media change: please insert the disc labeled ...” in Debian 10.

2020-11-19 Thread Daniel Lange
Hi Edgar, Am 19.11.20 um 09:04 schrieb Edgar Villanueva Jr: I was amazed by the description that Debian is robust and reliable etc. So I decided to install it. But when I try to install from terminal "Fix the apt-get install error: “Media change: please insert the disc labeled ...” appea

How to Fix the apt-get install error: “Media change: please insert the disc labeled ...” in Debian 10.

2020-11-19 Thread Edgar Villanueva Jr
I was amazed by the description that Debian is robust and reliable etc. So I decided to install it. But when I try to install from terminal "Fix the apt-get install error: “Media change: please insert the disc labeled ...” appears. I can't also install software thru discover. I really

Can one install packages from Parrot or Kali on Debian testing? (Was: Re: Hi :))

2020-09-10 Thread Andy Smith
general, upgrading to newer versions of packages for no reason other than that they exist is not a good practice. You should have a reason for wanting a newer package than what exists in Debian testing. I recommend that if you do have such a need for specific newer packages, you install them individ

Re: How to install on imac

2019-05-04 Thread Geert Stappers
On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 07:53:05PM -0400, John Hammack wrote: > I would like info on how to install Debian on imac, (24-inch, Early 2009). At https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Apple is the text 'iMac9,1 (24" Mar 2009, 20" Apr 2009)' which links to

How to install on imac

2019-05-03 Thread John Hammack
I would like info on how to install Debian on imac, (24-inch, Early 2009). mailto:retar...@linuxmail.org>> or mailto:j...@cahammack.com>>

Re: Problem: Opera 12.16 and Opera 58 can't install this in Debian 9.8

2019-03-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 1:12 AM Patrick Dreier wrote: > To: debian-project@lists.debian.org > > Problem: Opera 12.16 and Opera 58 can't install this in Debian 9.8 > How can resolve this? Please resend your question to Debian's support channels: https://www.debian.org/

Problem: Opera 12.16 and Opera 58 can't install this in Debian 9.8

2019-03-20 Thread Patrick Dreier
Dear Woman and Man! Problem: Opera 12.16 and Opera 58 can't install this in Debian 9.8 How can resolve this? With king regards!

Re: Report functional install on Clevo N130WU laptop

2017-11-10 Thread Paul Wise
a, please file an install report: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/apas04.html.en -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

Re: Report functional install on Clevo N130WU laptop

2017-11-10 Thread Laura Arjona Reina
Hello Michael El 10 de noviembre de 2017 17:53:56 CET, Michael Serafino escribió: >Hello, > >I recently installed debian stable (debian-live-9.2.0-amd64-gnome.iso) >on >my laptop (Clevo N130WU). > >Is there an official forum for reporting success/issues related to >installing Debian on laptops?

Report functional install on Clevo N130WU laptop

2017-11-10 Thread Michael Serafino
Hello, I recently installed debian stable (debian-live-9.2.0-amd64-gnome.iso) on my laptop (Clevo N130WU). Is there an official forum for reporting success/issues related to installing Debian on laptops? I would like to share my experiences in case others are interested in this laptop. Thank you

Re: Obtaining Debian Install PKG

2017-01-23 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 06:47:54AM -0500, John Klinvex wrote: > Dear Support, > > I apologize for bothering you with a simple question. > > I have several legacy systems (old) that I am installing Debian onto. I > also wish to install other packages (Kicad, Freecad, Mercurial

Obtaining Debian Install PKG

2017-01-23 Thread John Klinvex
Dear Support, I apologize for bothering you with a simple question. I have several legacy systems (old) that I am installing Debian onto. I also wish to install other packages (Kicad, Freecad, Mercurial, Gmsh, and Qucs). I like using the apt-get installation procedure so I want to be sure to

Re: How to install Debian 8.6.0 dvd 2 & 3 from iso

2016-12-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 8:12 PM, Chandan raj wrote: > I want to install Debian 8.6.0 dvd 2 and 3 which is in the .iso format > without burning it in dvd.I have installed dvd 1 which contain operating > system.Can I install it after installing Debian operating system. Please contact t

How to install Debian 8.6.0 dvd 2 & 3 from iso

2016-12-01 Thread Chandan raj
Sir, I want to install Debian 8.6.0 dvd 2 and 3 which is in the .iso format without burning it in dvd.I have installed dvd 1 which contain operating system.Can I install it after installing Debian operating system. Please help me. Thanks.

Re: Kicad Installation Issue Regard Of 4.0.4 Its Only Install 4.0.2 In Debian Jessie 8.5

2016-11-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 11:24 AM, ARAVIND B KUMAR wrote: > We Are Try To Install Kicad 4.0.4 In Debain Jessie 8.5 But It Only Install > 4.0.2 Can You Please Help Us How To Install Kicad 4.0.4 In Debian Jessie 8.5 > We Are Try To Build And We Try Using PPA But It Install Only Kicad 4.0.

Kicad Installation Issue Regard Of 4.0.4 Its Only Install 4.0.2 In Debian Jessie 8.5

2016-11-15 Thread ARAVIND B KUMAR
Hello Sir This Is Aravind From India We Are Try To Install Kicad 4.0.4 In Debain Jessie 8.5 But It Only Install 4.0.2 Can You Please Help Us How To Install Kicad 4.0.4 In Debian Jessie 8.5 We Are Try To Build And We Try Using PPA But It Install Only Kicad 4.0.2 We Are Looking Forward From You

Bug#806287: marked as done (project: Hello! I tried to use Debian with gnome.. Looks cool, works poop... Package-Activity does not allow to install FIREFOX. I can't even SORT list of packages)

2016-06-10 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Fri, 10 Jun 2016 15:52:52 +0200 with message-id <575ac634.3050...@debian.org> and subject line Re: project: Hello! I tried to use Debian with gnome.. Looks cool, works poop... Package-Activity does not allow to install FIREFOX. I can't even SORT list of packages has

Bug#806287: project: Hello! I tried to use Debian with gnome.. Looks cool, works poop... Package-Activity does not allow to install FIREFOX. I can't even SORT list of packages

2016-06-10 Thread Laura Arjona Reina
id you do (or not do) that was effective (or > ineffective)? -> I tried to install firefox not from console. * > What was the outcome of this action? ->I feel like nobody loves > me. * What outcome did you expect instead? -> At least, I want to > sort packages in list. And I still

Re: INSTALL DEBIAN TOUCH ON SMARTPHONE WITH ANDROID

2015-12-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 6:56 PM, SERGIO TAFUR PINA wrote: > I want to try it on my Smartphone Sony Xperia E3. Unfortunately this device is not supported by Linux mainline and so it isn't possible for Debian to support this device. The best you can get right now is a chroot under Android, please

INSTALL DEBIAN TOUCH ON SMARTPHONE WITH ANDROID

2015-12-11 Thread SERGIO TAFUR PINA
Hello, I wear contact you to tell me how I can install Debian in my Smartphone Touch and use it as a phone to make and receive calls, couriers also, sms etc. If this is possible, tell me how it is carried out. I am passionate about Linux and I have already proved I had desktop pc and the truth

Bug#806287: project: Hello! I tried to use Debian with gnome.. Looks cool, works poop... Package-Activity does not allow to install FIREFOX. I can't even SORT list of packages

2015-11-25 Thread max
tried to install firefox not from console. * What was the outcome of this action? ->I feel like nobody loves me. * What outcome did you expect instead? -> At least, I want to sort packages in list. And I still couldn't find Mozilla Firefox or Chromium in the list... PS:

Urgent! Questions/Confirmations concerning *Debian 7.7.0 amd64* before I install it.

2014-12-07 Thread Shio Gai Quek
Dear All My name is Quek from Malaysia. I am now downloading Debian 7.7.0 amd64. Right now my workstation uses w** 7 ultimate 64bit, with one(1) CPU (Core i7-4770K), and 32GB of RAM. I need your help! Before I decide to install it for my upcoming "compute-server" and possibl

Debian 8 Current Build ISO install.

2014-08-18 Thread Lee Foster
Hi, I downloaded and installed Debian 8 from one of the recent builds that drop each Monday. For what is a work in progress all I can say is "WOW". It runs very well on my pc and shows the level of care and skill involved in this project. I can not wait to see how awesome the actual release version

Re: how to install scanner on my Debian

2013-01-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
o not how to cope with, namely my > old scanner MUSTEK 1200 which I have not been able to install > successfully on my Debian so far. I have been trying to find a > solution to this problen on the Internet, but nothing interesting > has been found. I would be very grateful i

Re: Bug#686481: debian-reference instructs users on how to install non-free software

2012-09-03 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 04 Sep 2012, Osamu Aoki wrote: > For example, if package build environment has pre-defined and agreed > environment variable such as: > > DERIVATIVE=(undefined) # debian build > DERIVATIVE=debian # debian build > DERIVATIVE=ubuntu # ubuntu build > DERIVATIVE=trisquel# trisque

Re: Bug#686481: debian-reference instructs users on how to install non-free software

2012-09-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 03 sep 12, 22:14:44, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > > I am reporting this bug because Stefano Zacchiroli has called for a > > "free-ness assessment" [2]. It is up to the package maintainer on how to > > proceed. > > So you are making me feel I am doing something DPL does not approve... > But I c

Re: Bug#686481: debian-reference instructs users on how to install non-free software

2012-09-03 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 03:46:12PM +0200, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > Hi! > > Am 03.09.2012 15:14, schrieb Osamu Aoki: > > > If the bug reporter wishes to kill everything about non-free from Debian > > related documents and archive area, I can tell him to go to the source > > :-) "Deb

Re: Bug#686481: debian-reference instructs users on how to install non-free software

2012-09-03 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! Am 03.09.2012 15:14, schrieb Osamu Aoki: > If the bug reporter wishes to kill everything about non-free from Debian > related documents and archive area, I can tell him to go to the source > :-) "Debian policy" (Sure this is in our "main" area which is the real > Debian system) > > 2.2.3 Th

Re: Bug#686481: debian-reference instructs users on how to install non-free software

2012-09-03 Thread Osamu Aoki
debian-reference> ^ OLD! http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/debian-reference.html The latest version is 2.48 > *Steps to reproduce:* > > (From the terminal) > >- sudo apt-get install debian-reference >- debian-reference > > (Program opens documenta

Re: re-install apache2 on Debian 6

2011-03-31 Thread Tapio Lehtonen
John Larysz kirjoitti: Hi: I have corrupted my apache2 server and deleted a key directory - /etc/apache2. Nothing I do with dpkg or apt-get seems to put this directory back. How do I re-install apache2? The mailing list debian-project is not appropriate for questions like

Re: re-install apache2 on Debian 6

2011-03-31 Thread MJ Ray
"John Larysz" > I have corrupted my apache2 server and deleted a key directory - > /etc/apache2. Nothing I do with dpkg or apt-get seems to put this directory > back. How do I re-install apache2? I suspect that purging and then installing all packages with apache2 anywhere

re-install apache2 on Debian 6

2011-03-31 Thread John Larysz
Hi: I have corrupted my apache2 server and deleted a key directory - /etc/apache2. Nothing I do with dpkg or apt-get seems to put this directory back. How do I re-install apache2?

Re: Why so many install DVD's ?

2011-03-04 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Hi, On Friday 04 March 2011 17.46:11 dos4ever wrote: > Why 7 install iso files at 4.4G & 1 at 842M =31Gb. ... > If they are all needed to install the OS that would make Debian more > bloatware then Win 7. :-) Others have answered: CD 1 is sufficient. I usually don't ev

Re: Why so many install DVD's ?

2011-03-04 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 18:03, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > packages. The size of an average desktop install is well below 5GB², > including the whole desktop suite (with the most often used programs > for a "regular" workstation). This can be misleading because install size is always

Re: Why so many install DVD's ?

2011-03-04 Thread Gunnar Wolf
dos4ever dijo [Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 08:46:11AM -0800]: > Hello I checked the FAQ and did not find the answer to this > question: Why 7 install iso files at 4.4G & 1 at 842M =31Gb. > I would hope that disk 1 is all that is needed to install the OS and > the rest are programs? &

Re: Why so many install DVD's ?

2011-03-04 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 03/04/2011 12:46 PM, dos4ever wrote: > Hello I checked the FAQ and did not find the answer to this question: > Why 7 install iso files at 4.4G & 1 at 842M =31Gb. > I would hope that disk 1 is all that is needed to install the OS and the > rest are programs? > If they are al

Re: Why so many install DVD's ?

2011-03-04 Thread Anzan Hoshin Roshi
On 4 March 2011 11:46, dos4ever wrote: > Hello I checked the FAQ and did not find the answer to this question: Why 7 > install iso files at 4.4G & 1 at 842M =31Gb. > I would hope that disk 1 is all that is needed to install the OS and the > rest are programs? > If they are al

Why so many install DVD's ?

2011-03-04 Thread dos4ever
Hello I checked the FAQ and did not find the answer to this question: Why 7 install iso files at 4.4G & 1 at 842M =31Gb. I would hope that disk 1 is all that is needed to install the OS and the rest are programs? If they are all needed to install the OS that would make Debian more bloat

Re: Pre-Install Question

2010-06-19 Thread Huang, Tao
look for the listing in the mirror directory hierarchy. go up one level and you'll find http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.4/i386/list-dvd/ btw, the first disc contains the installer and the most frequently used packages. Do not post to multiple mailing list. and this question is totally ir

Pre-Install Question

2010-06-19 Thread Timothy Schader
Please tell me what the differences are between all the DVD downloads at the following link. What is contained on each disk/iso? http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.4/i386/iso-dvd/ Thanks! Tim

Re: how to install Debian Hurd//como instalar Debian Hurd

2009-07-03 Thread Andre Felipe Machado
the Debian Hurd. Regards. Andre Felipe Machado [0] http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install [1] http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-contact [2] http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-devel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

how to install Debian Hurd//como instalar Debian Hurd

2009-07-03 Thread Andres Heredia
ENGLISH hello my name is andres, I am interested in (install or compile), the operating system Debian Hurd. I wanted to know if you could send me any link or pdf file on how to compile or install Debian Hurd and also some other link to download the iso of the hurd I tried several times

where are all Debian SPARC install CDs/DVDs?

2009-04-17 Thread Marcello Di Marino Azevedo
Hello, I'm not sure this is the correct list to ask this but I was askedto install Debian on a Sparc machine but not all CDs/DVDs are available to download under main download server. Looking at: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/sparc/iso-cd/ and http://cdimage.debian.org/debi

Re: where are all Debian SPARC install CDs/DVDs?

2009-04-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 18 April 2009, Marcello Di Marino Azevedo wrote: > Hello, I'm not sure this is the correct list to ask this but I was > askedto install Debian on a Sparc machine but not all CDs/DVDs are > available to download under main download server. > > Looking at: http:

where are all Debian SPARC install CDs/DVDs?

2009-04-17 Thread Marcello Di Marino Azevedo
Hello, I'm not sure this is the correct list to ask this but I was askedto install Debian on a Sparc machine but not all CDs/DVDs are available to download under main download server. Looking at: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/sparc/iso-cd/ and http://cdimage.debian.org/debi

Re: Wish list regarding install

2009-03-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 07:29:02AM -0400, Michael Powell wrote: > I tried executing grub, grub-install, etc., and got "command not found" > errors. Must be hid pretty good! ;-) Thanks! Use the installer's built-in rescue mode as Frans said, and then go through the me

Re: how can i install debian into old machines

2009-03-24 Thread AndreMachado
Hello, Fabian Unfortunately, the latest Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 requires at least 44 MB RAM [0]. Maybe you could try Debian 4.0 Etch or Etch and half (the oldstable now), and with a base system install first (around 24 MB ram) install only lightweight GUI environments like XFCE or FVWM, for example

Re: how can i install debian into old machines

2009-03-23 Thread Tapio Lehtonen
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 06:43:24PM -0300, DPD.CAC Div. Proc. Dados Cáceres Unemat wrote: > Good Evening, > My name is Fabian. I'm work at the University of the State of Mato > Grosso - Brazil. > We get a toshiba satellite notebook k6 2 300 mhz, 32 mb of ram and 4 gb of hd. &g

how can i install debian into old machines

2009-03-23 Thread DPD . CAC Div . Proc . Dados Cáceres Unemat
Good Evening, My name is Fabian. I'm work at the University of the State of Mato Grosso - Brazil. We get a toshiba satellite notebook k6 2 300 mhz, 32 mb of ram and 4 gb of hd. How can i install debian into this machine? I tried some distros like dizinha or puppy, but had no success. Please i

Re: Wish list regarding install

2009-03-15 Thread Michael Powell
I tried executing grub, grub-install, etc., and got "command not found" errors. Must be hid pretty good! ;-) Thanks! On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 07:57:43 +0100 Frans Pop wrote: > On Sunday 15 March 2009, m...@iglou.com wrote: > > In the future, it would be very, very, very, very,

Re: Wish list regarding install

2009-03-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 15 March 2009, m...@iglou.com wrote: > In the future, it would be very, very, very, very, very nice if there > was an install option to install/reinstall Grub. Currently, the > install process will not install/reinstall Grub without having the core > packages installed

Wish list regarding install

2009-03-14 Thread mlp
Greetings! I am running Debian on an i386 machine with a dual boot: "Production," which is the stable release, and "Test," which is pointed to a mix of the stable & test repositories. In the past, when a new version is released, I always install it fresh into the Test &

wrong list (Re: Install KDE Language Package Problam)

2007-04-30 Thread Bart Martens
On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 21:55 +0800, Wayne wrote: > Dear Debian Group > > My English is so bad, so i want to install kde-i18n-zhtw language > package > but, i use "apt-get install kde-i18n-zhtw" command, that say "No > found" > i also use the command

Install KDE Language Package Problam

2007-04-30 Thread Wayne
Dear Debian Group My English is so bad, so i want to install kde-i18n-zhtw language package but, i use "apt-get install kde-i18n-zhtw" command, that say "No found" i also use the command "apt-get search kde-i18n-zhtw", that say "E:Invaild operation search&q

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-10 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
On 06/10/05 01:10:22, Chris Waters wrote: On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 02:34:14PM +0200, Gerardo Ballabio wrote: > I was complaining that a screensaver, that is, a program that isn't expected to have anything to do with web surfing, could download *anything* without asking me. Of course if I will

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-09 Thread Chris Waters
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 02:34:14PM +0200, Gerardo Ballabio wrote: > I was complaining that a screensaver, that is, a program that isn't > expected to have anything to do with web surfing, could download > *anything* without asking me. Of course if I willfully enable > "screensaver that downl

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-09 Thread MJ Ray
R. Armiento wrote: > As an alternative, I present to you this highly on-topic excerpt from > Monty Python's "The Crunchy Frog Sketch": Exactly! Read the whole sketch! > [...] I suggest that the long-term solution is to move WebCollage to a > package xscreensaver-off; [...] Nothing in webcollage

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-09 Thread Martin Schulze
R. Armiento wrote: > > As I understand it, the Random option does exactly what it says, it starts > > one of the named screensavers at random. The problem is that some of the > > screensavers work by taking an image, and then manipulating it in various > > ways. That's fine but it needs to get th

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-09 Thread Philip Hands
Gerardo Ballabio wrote: On 06/09/05 13:46:38, Philip Hands wrote: I believe you've missed the point. [...] I believe you missed mine. You're absolutely correct --- I apologise, I dived into the middle of a thread without reading all of it. Doh! Cheers, Phil. signature.asc Description:

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-09 Thread R. Armiento
MJ Ray wrote: > R. Armiento wrote: >> 4. Start kde control-center and select 'random screensaver' >> (not default) > > Would you like a label on that "random screensaver" option which > says "Warning: may do things you don't expect"? > > Have you read "Don't eat this book"? Have you had snea

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-09 Thread MJ Ray
R. Armiento wrote: > 4. Start kde control-center and select 'random screensaver' > (not default) Would you like a label on that "random screensaver" option which says "Warning: may do things you don't expect"? Have you read "Don't eat this book"? Have you had sneaker mints? -- To UNSUBS

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-09 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
On 06/09/05 13:46:38, Philip Hands wrote: I believe you've missed the point. It's not that "random" goes of hunting for porn and slapping it on your screen, it's that certain "offensive" images may end up being downloaded, and then displayed to people who would prefer not to see them. I

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-09 Thread R. Armiento
mages *from internet* *by itself*, with no user input and no configuration needed. To spell this out as clearly as I can: 1. Do a fresh Sarge install, include the 'desktop' task. 2. Make a user account 'aunt' 3. Login on this account BUT select 'KDE' as dekstop (no

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-09 Thread Philip Hands
Gerardo Ballabio wrote: Hi all, I'd like to add my two cents to the discussion. I don't think that "random screensaver" should download *anything* from the Web. Not everybody has fast Internet connections, and I don't want my computer to waste bandwidth unless *I* tell it to. "You enabled ran

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-09 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Hi all, I'd like to add my two cents to the discussion. I don't think that "random screensaver" should download *anything* from the Web. Not everybody has fast Internet connections, and I don't want my computer to waste bandwidth unless *I* tell it to. "You enabled random screensaver, you g

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-07 Thread Anonymous
The public won't blame the sysadmin they'll blame the big red swirl. I've never heard anybody blame the logo for offending them. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:05:41AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > R. Armiento wrote: > > Of the perhaps ~60 users I have helped over time, it is my impression > > that wallpaper and screensaver are among the most common things for > > "ordinary users" to configure. The random screensaver is a very common

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-06 Thread Joey Hess
- Plenty of other content Debian ships *is* objectionable by one group or > another... > - This bug isn't an issue on networks that have filtered web access (which > is true of most work environments where this would be a real problem) Not only large networks are affected, cons

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-06 Thread R. Armiento
Ean Schuessler wrote: R. Armiento wrote: The "bug" here is just about that the current setup may make it a little too easy for people who will be offended by WebCollage to still accidently install and use it. It is sensible to both 1) keep things available for people who want to

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-06 Thread Bill Allombert
On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 06:02:54PM +0200, R. Armiento wrote: > Result: users of KDE with the 'random screensaver' setting > eventually find their screens filled with sexually explicit > content. And even if that should be fixed, users "flipping > through the screensavers" risk being presented with

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-06 Thread Jochen Voss
Hi Ean, On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:43:20AM -0500, Ean Schuessler wrote: > This all seems a little foolish. If you want to insure that users do not > accidentally stumble across porn the only reasonable solution is to block > access to the Internet itself. WebCollage does precisely what it claims

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-06 Thread Ean Schuessler
On Saturday 04 June 2005 7:23 am, R. Armiento wrote: > The thing is, I *perfectly* agree with these statements. The "bug" here > is just about that the current setup may make it a little too easy for > people who will be offended by WebCollage to still accidently install

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 11:36:28AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > This needs to be fixed for sarge, as it will subject random underage people > > sitting in the same room your computer is in to random porn. I believe th= > > is is illegal in most countries, and we can't be allowed to

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-06 Thread MJ Ray
R. Armiento wrote: > Of the perhaps ~60 users I have helped over time, it is my impression > that wallpaper and screensaver are among the most common things for > "ordinary users" to configure. The random screensaver is a very common > choice. Please, educate users to expect activating controls

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread R. Armiento
Andreas Barth wrote: * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050605 15:20]: Notice that nobody was taking this seriously, people where only saying, how it is not so important, there is an easy workaround, let's just forget about this. I can assure you, that is not true. We had some discussion with

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Mark Brown
On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 08:20:07PM +0200, R. Armiento wrote: > Since the main issue on my mind was "do people feel that it is ok that > this goes into the sarge release?", exactly what would have been proper > procedure? How long should I have waited before bringing it to the list? I'd only hav

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Matthew Garrett
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (Some stuff) I was going to say something here, but then I died of boredom. Sorry about that. -- Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Sven Luther said: > On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 05:47:50PM -0400, Stephen Gran wrote: > > Yeah, random underage people in this context being the children of the KDE > desktop using users. Would you like your child to be subject to porn while you > are away and the screensa

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread MJ Ray
Matthew Garrett wrote: > Basic politeness like using the second person when you're replying to > someone? Christ. Personal messages should not be sent to lists. It's like putting a letter to me in the press or making this a "Problems with MJ Ray" thread. Rather irritating. > I have better things

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread MJ Ray
To comment on another thread: it may be a bug, but let's let the maintainers and RMs decide on it. Sven Luther wrote: > On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 12:54:11PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > > [...] Is it a bug in our TV sets that porno isn't autolocked? > But you have to switch to those chanels, as opposed to

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Christopher Martin
The KDE/porn problem doesn't seem to have existed to the same extent in Woody, since neither kdebase nor kscreensaver depended on xscreensaver, and xscreensaver wasn't as neatly integrated into KDE as it is now. However, the problem is more prominent in Sarge, since the desktop task installs al

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Saturday 04 June 2005 14:21, Sven Luther wrote: > I personally would feel strongly insulted if my children where to be > subject to such a thing, and i would be ashamed to propose debian/sarge > to any folk i know, so i vote for making this issue RC and fixing it, > even if it means delaying the

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 03:12:55PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 12:54:11PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > > Depends on the family. Mine doesn't even lock the porno channels > > on the TV AFAICR. There's nudity in quite a lot of the adverts on > > some channels, too. We watch who's co

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Andreas Barth
* Matthew Garrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050605 14:20]: > Using a non-default desktop with a non-default screensaver configuration > will, under certain circumstances, potentially result in children being > able to see pornography. So, uh, no. We won't. Even worse. Using the default web browser with

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Andreas Barth
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050605 10:54]: > So, we will ship a sarge release which will show porn to our kids by default ? That is not true. By default, KDE is not used. And even with using KDE, by default the random screen saver is not selected. Cheers, Andi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread R. Armiento
lar "protection" for Sarge, or if netpbm will be present in most installations anyway. In the "exposure" reported to me, the netpbm package had apparently been installed in a more or less normal sarge testing install. //Rickard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PR

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Andreas Barth
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050605 15:20]: > On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 01:49:54PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > > Sven Luther wrote: > > > > Not if we don't annulate the woody release and fix it in woody as well. > > > > > > > > It's rediculous that a "bug" that is present in woody already w

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread R. Armiento
Stephen Gran wrote: ISTR that the default KDE setup does not activate the screensavers. It also doesn't pick random as the default. So this means people have to actively change the defaults and not have any enforced site policy to trigger this. Again, they asked webcollage to do what it does.

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Andreas Barth
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050605 13:44]: > On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 12:38:50PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > > Tapio Lehtonen wrote: > > > I don't understand the animosity, this definitely is a bug and should > > > be fixed. Personally, I would even consider it grounds for postponing > > >

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Matthew Garrett
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, if this is not something you get by doing a clean desktop install and > chosing the KDE desktop, then yes, but i was led to believe from other posts > here that the random screensaver was indeed configured to include this one by &

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 01:49:54PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > > > Not if we don't annulate the woody release and fix it in woody as well. > > > > > > It's rediculous that a "bug" that is present in woody already which was > > > released nearly three years ago, suddenly is

Re: Discussion of bug #311683, default kde install shows porn

2005-06-05 Thread Sven Luther
guration > will, under certain circumstances, potentially result in children being > able to see pornography. So, uh, no. We won't. Ok, if this is not something you get by doing a clean desktop install and chosing the KDE desktop, then yes, but i was led to believe from other posts he

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