On Thu, Sep 17 2009, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:47:10AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>>On Thu, Sep 10 2009, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, what happens if somebody wants to maintain software where there
>>> is a strong set of opinion that we don't want it? In this ca
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 11:24:15PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> >Still, I fail to see exactly how Steve was proposing to solve the
> >issue. He mentioned a vote, but to me the proposal was too vague to even
> >understand what we can vote about.
> Oh, absolutely. :-) I don't have a concrete propos
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:47:10AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>On Thu, Sep 10 2009, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>>
>> Well, what happens if somebody wants to maintain software where there
>> is a strong set of opinion that we don't want it? In this case, I'd
>> like to delegate the power to the ftpma
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 01:16:38PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
>On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 00:12:18 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>I'm very much in favour of something like this. Debian is better off
>without schilyware imo.
That's an obvious example, but (as others have pointed o
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:11:54AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:42:45PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
>> > In my opinion, the current recommendation in the developer
>> > references is enough for now:
>
>I concur.
>
>> Different thing. This encourages the maintainer to
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 06:42:15PM +0100, Matthew Johnson wrote:
>On Thu Sep 10 12:53, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> Well, what happens if somebody wants to maintain software where there
>> is a strong set of opinion that we don't want it? In this case, I'd
>> like to delegate the power to the ftpmaster
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 01:16:38PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 00:12:18 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>
> > Thoughts?
> >
> I'm very much in favour of something like this. Debian is better off
> without schilyware imo.
it's sadly not only about shilly. Some tuomoware i
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 03:07:47PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Sep 2009, Matthew Johnson wrote:
> > On Thu Sep 10 12:53, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > > Well, what happens if somebody wants to maintain software where there
> > > is a strong set of opinion that we don't want it? In this cas
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009, Matthew Johnson wrote:
> On Thu Sep 10 12:53, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > Well, what happens if somebody wants to maintain software where there
> > is a strong set of opinion that we don't want it? In this case, I'd
> > like to delegate the power to the ftpmasters to say so and r
On Thu Sep 10 12:53, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Well, what happens if somebody wants to maintain software where there
> is a strong set of opinion that we don't want it? In this case, I'd
> like to delegate the power to the ftpmasters to say so and reject from
> NEW etc. If we have a clear consensus t
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:42:45PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> > In my opinion, the current recommendation in the developer
> > references is enough for now:
I concur.
> Different thing. This encourages the maintainer to think if he wants
> it. Now, what if the maintainer wants it (hey, some pe
> In terms of rationale, I think it's clear that we do *not* have to
> package every piece of Free Software that is available to us. If we
> can't have a sensible relationship with the upstream developers, then
> I believe it would be better not to expose Debian and our users to the
> problems tha
>> Thoughts?
> I'm very much in favour of something like this. Debian is better off
> without schilyware imo.
This isnt special to that. We had/have other people as upstreams we
might not like. (How about the one that purposely added broken code in a
way that it will run on every users system bu
>> There has been some discussion in the last couple of years about
>> whether or not Debian should distribute software that was written by
>> developers that we consider to be "hostile".
> In my opinion, the current recommendation in the developer references
> is enough for now:
Different thing.
On Thu, Sep 10 2009, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:00:53AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
>>If someone really want to maintain such package, we should not
>>prohibit it, but we should make it clear that it is strongly
>>recommended to not maintain such package, and that th
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:00:53AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
>[Steve McIntyre]
>> There has been some discussion in the last couple of years about
>> whether or not Debian should distribute software that was written by
>> developers that we consider to be "hostile".
>
>In my opinion, the cu
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 00:12:18 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Thoughts?
>
I'm very much in favour of something like this. Debian is better off
without schilyware imo.
Cheers,
Julien
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[Steve McIntyre]
> There has been some discussion in the last couple of years about
> whether or not Debian should distribute software that was written by
> developers that we consider to be "hostile".
In my opinion, the current recommendation in the developer references
is enough for now:
If
The developers reference now contains a paragraph concerning hostile upstreams:
http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/developer-duties.html#upstream-coordination
http://bugs.debian.org/523985
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Hi folks,
There has been some discussion in the last couple of years about
whether or not Debian should distribute software that was written by
developers that we consider to be "hostile". I also ended up talking
to multiple people at DebConf about this issue and it was suggested
that we should ha
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