Re: Debian logos and trademarks

2007-02-22 Thread Anthony Towns
Hi SPI! As per the thread on debian-project [0] I'm writing to request that SPI relicense the Debian logos that they hold the copyright to [1] under the MIT copyright license: > Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person > obtaining a copy of this s

Re: Debian logos and trademarks

2007-02-10 Thread Florian Weimer
* Bastian Venthur: > See what I mean? Maybe I'm missing something obvious here, but isn't > that a contradiction? FWIW, I agree there is an apparent contradiction. In German legalese, it's called "venire contra factum proprium" and can it make it significantly harder (or even impossible) to succ

Re: Debian logos and trademarks

2007-02-08 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 07:16:54PM +0100, Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "someone can only use it if we authorize it" Actually, this is not exactly true. *Some* uses of it may require authorization, depending on trademark laws. Note that, for example, if you modify the logo enough t

Re: Debian logos and trademarks

2007-02-08 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Bastian Venthur said: > Anthony Towns schrieb: > > > > Having a restrictive trademark license prevents people from using > > confusingly similar logos, while a DFSG-free copyright license allows > > people to make derivatives as long as they're not confusingly similar.

Re: Debian logos and trademarks

2007-02-08 Thread Bastian Venthur
Anthony Towns schrieb: > On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 10:03:52AM +0100, Bastian Venthur wrote: >> I have a question. If I understand you correctly you want to put the >> "official use" logo under the MIT license AND enforce it as an >> unregistered trademark so that someone can only use it if "we" (who?

Re: Debian logos and trademarks

2007-02-08 Thread MJ Ray
Anthony Towns wrote: > The DFSG refers to copyright licensing, it doesn't cover patents or > trademarks. I think the above is mistaken and I'd find it shocking if any DD who passed NM made it. It is easily shown not to be the case by checking http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines for

Re: Debian logos and trademarks

2007-02-08 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 11:57:13PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Thu, 08 Feb 2007, Anthony Towns wrote: > > The DFSG refers to copyright licensing, it doesn't cover patents or > > trademarks. > It actually doesn't refer to any of them specifically. It does talk > about licensing, but it doesn't

Re: Debian logos and trademarks

2007-02-07 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 08 Feb 2007, Anthony Towns wrote: > The DFSG refers to copyright licensing, it doesn't cover patents or > trademarks. It actually doesn't refer to any of them specifically. It does talk about licensing, but it doesn't clarify whether it's refering to copyright licensing or trademark licen

Re: Debian logos and trademarks

2007-02-07 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 10:03:52AM +0100, Bastian Venthur wrote: > I have a question. If I understand you correctly you want to put the > "official use" logo under the MIT license AND enforce it as an > unregistered trademark so that someone can only use it if "we" (who?) > authorize it. This sound

Re: Debian logos and trademarks

2007-02-07 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070207 10:05]: > I have a question. If I understand you correctly you want to put the > "official use" logo under the MIT license AND enforce it as an > unregistered trademark so that someone can only use it if "we" (who?) > authorize it. This sounds contradic

Re: Debian logos and trademarks

2007-02-07 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007, Bastian Venthur wrote: > I have a question. If I understand you correctly you want to put the > "official use" logo under the MIT license AND enforce it as an > unregistered trademark so that someone can only use it if "we" > (who?) authorize it. This sounds contradicting to me

Re: Debian logos and trademarks

2007-02-07 Thread Bastian Venthur
Am 07.02.2007 04:37 schrieb Anthony Towns: > > As such at the end of this week, I'm planning on asking the SPI board to > relicense the Debian logos as follows: > > * both logos shall be released under the MIT copyright license: > [...] > > * the "open

Debian logos and trademarks

2007-02-06 Thread Anthony Towns
trademark policy, and it seems that people there were pretty much for the idea. As such at the end of this week, I'm planning on asking the SPI board to relicense the Debian logos as follows: * both logos shall be released under the MIT copyright license: Permission is hereby gran

Re: Debian logos

2005-07-26 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Milan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.07.26.2132 +0200]: > If it is, I would kindly ask you to direct me to the URL containg > it or to send it to me on this email address. http://www.debian.org/logos/ -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f.

Re: Debian logos

2005-07-26 Thread René van Bevern
On 26.07.05, Milan wrote: Hi Milan, > I wanted to ask you if the debian logo is avaible in some of the > vector formats? You can download the logos in encapsulated postscript from http://www.debian.org/logos René van Bevern, http://progn.org pgpn0u69zOvfp.pgp Description: PGP signa

Debian logos

2005-07-26 Thread Milan
Hello! First of all, I apologize if I directed this message to the wrong address. I wan to make some Debian related graphics like wallpapers, 3D art, icons or similar, and I wanted to ask you if the debian logo is avaible in some of the vector formats? If it is, I would kindly ask you to dir

Re: Cover texts, GFDL, and Debian logos

2004-03-01 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-02-29 04:18:38 + Zenaan Harkness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 12:02, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 11:34:59AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: How is the Debian logo so different from "front cover texts"? Because it is not distributed in Debian

Re: Debian logos

2004-02-29 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 17:19, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > The Debian logo{, and all other non-free parts of the Debian website > > listed here, if there are any} are licensed according to the GNU GPL > > {LGPL|X|?} license. > > This isn't really necessary.

Re: Debian logos

2004-02-29 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > The Debian logo{, and all other non-free parts of the Debian website > listed here, if there are any} are licensed according to the GNU GPL > {LGPL|X|?} license. This isn't really necessary. All that is necessary is that any additional work placed on d

Re: Debian logos

2004-02-29 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 15:41, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 03:18:38PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > Why should our logo not be Free? > > No reason. I think we've actually tried to do this before now and hit > some snag or other, and just not cared enough to press the issue >

Re: Debian logos

2004-02-28 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 03:18:38PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Why should our logo not be Free? No reason. I think we've actually tried to do this before now and hit some snag or other, and just not cared enough to press the issue further. I can't remember what it was last time, though. One po

Re: Cover texts, GFDL, and Debian logos

2004-02-28 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 12:02, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 11:34:59AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > How is the Debian logo so different from "front cover texts"? > > Because it is not distributed in Debian 'main' ? Is this a valid response? Does DFSG mean "what goes in ma

Re: unoffical debian logos, banners and covers

2002-09-26 Thread Raul Miller
Le Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 04:21:19PM +0300, Volkan YAZICI ?crivait: > >> > there are currently 9 logos, 13 banners, 3 vertical banners, > >> > 5 cd covers, 2 workouts > >> > > >> > adress is http://www.linuks.mine.nu/volkany/ Previously Raphael Hertzog wrote: > >> They are really nice, I like them.

Re: unoffical debian logos, banners and covers

2002-09-26 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-26 14:44]: > Previously Raphael Hertzog wrote: >> Le Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 04:21:19PM +0300, Volkan YAZICI ?crivait: >> > there are currently 9 logos, 13 banners, 3 vertical banners, >> > 5 cd covers, 2 workouts >> > >> > adress is http://www.linuks.m

Re: unoffical debian logos, banners and covers

2002-09-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 04:21:19PM +0300, Volkan YAZICI wrote: > i have been working on some debian artwork since 2-3 months. > there is collected some good work and i thought that it > would be good to take your opinions > > there are currently 9 logos, 13 banners, 3 vertical banners, > 5 cd cove

Re: unoffical debian logos, banners and covers

2002-09-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Le Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 04:21:19PM +0300, Volkan YAZICI ?crivait: > > there are currently 9 logos, 13 banners, 3 vertical banners, > > 5 cd covers, 2 workouts > > > > adress is http://www.linuks.mine.nu/volkany/ > > They are really nice, I like them. Wow, I ju

Re: unoffical debian logos, banners and covers

2002-09-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 04:21:19PM +0300, Volkan YAZICI écrivait: > hi all Hi, > i have been working on some debian artwork since 2-3 months. > there is collected some good work and i thought that it > would be good to take your opinions > > there are currently 9 logos, 13 banners, 3 vertical ba

unoffical debian logos, banners and covers

2002-09-25 Thread Volkan YAZICI
hi all i have been working on some debian artwork since 2-3 months. there is collected some good work and i thought that it would be good to take your opinions there are currently 9 logos, 13 banners, 3 vertical banners, 5 cd covers, 2 workouts adress is http://www.linuks.mine.nu/volkany/ all c