Paul Wise writes ("Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests"):
> Perhaps what we need is a a culture of awareness of our own personal
> potential conflicts of interest and guidelines for disclosure (where
> relevant) and examples of conduct that is not appropriate.
Ye
Tollef Fog Heen writes ("Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests"):
Ian Jackson :
> > From Debian's point of view: I think that anyone who takes prolonged
> > employment with an organisation which takes an active interest in
> > their Debian work, to the ext
On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> From time to time (usually during flamewars) the issue of potential conflicts
> of interests sometimes comes up in various places in our around our community.
Today while moderating screenshots.d.n I found what I consider to be a
conflict
]] Ian Jackson
> Tollef Fog Heen writes ("Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests"):
> > Indeed. I also think there's a hang-up about financial conflicts of
> > interest in the discussion, but for at least me (and I suspect others),
> > money is a pret
Tollef Fog Heen writes ("Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests"):
> Indeed. I also think there's a hang-up about financial conflicts of
> interest in the discussion, but for at least me (and I suspect others),
> money is a pretty weak motivator. I general
Le dimanche, 14 mai 2017, 08.08:09 h CEST Tollef Fog Heen a écrit :
> I think «geniunely acting as independent individuals» is a meaningless
> concept, since everything we do is coloured by the context we're in and
> that includes social relations.
Oh, absolutely, my choice of words was wrong.
I
On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 08:08:09AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> Indeed. I also think there's a hang-up about financial conflicts of
> interest in the discussion, but for at least me (and I suspect others),
> money is a pretty weak motivator. I generally have enough that it's
> something I don'
]] Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
> Assuming a hypothetical Debian contributor with financial interests in
> a hotel business, part-time software engineer and affiliated to a
> political party: not all three connections matter in all Debian work,
> or discussions. The first might matter though iff people s
On May 11 2017, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Nikolaus Rath writes:
>> On May 10 2017, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
>>> and no conclusions should ever be drawn from it?
>
>> I don't think anyone has said that.
>
> Quoting from the originally proposed wiki page:
>
> | The following people have added themselves
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes ("Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests"):
> That said, I still think that there are situations in which declaring one's
> conflicts of interest _does_ matter, but I do expect the affected individual
> to
> either expl
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 10:10:39PM +0200, Philip Hands wrote:
> Also, I suspect that anyone that might be tempted to misbehave as a
> result of CoI will not have filled in their entry anyway, which makes me
> wonder what useful purpose this could serve beyond a virtue signalling
> opportunity.
I u
Le mardi, 9 mai 2017, 09.16:21 h CEST Jonathan Dowland a écrit :
> However in the interests of transparency I feel that a voluntary, opt-in
> "Register of Interests" is a good idea for the project. I feel that such a
> list (populated) would demonstrate the transparency and openness that are
> part
Le Thu, May 11, 2017 at 10:10:39PM +0200, Philip Hands a écrit :
>
> Also, I suspect that anyone that might be tempted to misbehave as a
> result of CoI will not have filled in their entry anyway, which makes me
> wonder what useful purpose this could serve beyond a virtue signalling
> opportunity
Russ Allbery writes:
> Nikolaus Rath writes:
>> On May 10 2017, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
>>> and no conclusions should ever be drawn from it?
>
>> I don't think anyone has said that.
>
> Quoting from the originally proposed wiki page:
>
> | The following people have added themselves to this list.
Nikolaus Rath writes:
> On May 10 2017, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> and no conclusions should ever be drawn from it?
> I don't think anyone has said that.
Quoting from the originally proposed wiki page:
| The following people have added themselves to this list. No-one should
| assume that the pres
On May 10 2017, Russ Allbery wrote:
> "Dr. Bas Wijnen" writes:
>> On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 11:51:23PM +, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>
>>> I think it's a horrible idea. One of the major draws of Debian is that
>>> we are all here for our own reasons. I don't judge your motivations
>>> and you don
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 01:05:09PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
>Jonathan Dowland writes ("Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests"):
>>
>> I respect that, but I hope that those who are happy to add
>> themselves to the list as it stands are not dissuaded fr
Jonathan Dowland writes ("Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests"):
> I'm not sure how to word it but I felt that it was appropriate to
> disclose that I work for Red Hat (Even though I do not work on RHEL
> or Fedora), since Red Hat produces something "
On May 10, 2017 3:20:49 PM EDT, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
>On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:55:33AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> Participation in Debian is voluntary, so saying information
>disclosure is
>> voluntary doesn't really mean anything.
>
>Evidently it does mean something, since here we a
"Dr. Bas Wijnen" writes:
> On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 11:51:23PM +, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> I think it's a horrible idea. One of the major draws of Debian is that
>> we are all here for our own reasons. I don't judge your motivations
>> and you don't judge nine.
> It's voluntary, so you dec
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:55:33AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> Participation in Debian is voluntary, so saying information disclosure is
> voluntary doesn't really mean anything.
Evidently it does mean something, since here we are discussing it.
> I object to the existence of such a registry
On Wed, 10 May 2017, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 09:43:31 AM Julien Cristau wrote:
> > On 05/10/2017 01:51 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > > If this became a requirement, I'd have to terminate my relationship with
> > > Debian. These are frankly none of anyone's business.
>
On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 09:43:31 AM Julien Cristau wrote:
> On 05/10/2017 01:51 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > If this became a requirement, I'd have to terminate my relationship with
> > Debian. These are frankly none of anyone's business.
> Sounds like you missed the "voluntary, opt-in" part?
On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 01:09:28PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> I think this is a good idea.
Thanks!
> It would be a good idea to make an annex, giving a list of kinds of
> "interest" that do not need to be mentioned; and ones that should be
> mentioned.
That sounds fine to me.
> Things that _ar
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On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 11:51:23PM +, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On May 9, 2017 8:09:28 AM EDT, Ian Jackson
> wrote:
> >Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> >> However in the interests of transparency I feel that a voluntary,
> >> opt-in "Register of Intere
On 05/10/2017 01:51 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> If this became a requirement, I'd have to terminate my relationship with
> Debian. These are frankly none of anyone's business.
>
Sounds like you missed the "voluntary, opt-in" part?
Cheers,
Julien
On May 9, 2017 8:09:28 AM EDT, Ian Jackson
wrote:
>Jonathan Dowland wrote:
>> However in the interests of transparency I feel that a voluntary,
>> opt-in "Register of Interests" is a good idea for the project. I feel
>> that such a list (populated) would demonstrate the transparency and
>> op
On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 01:09:28PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> > However in the interests of transparency I feel that a voluntary,
> > opt-in "Register of Interests" is a good idea for the project. I feel
> > that such a list (populated) would demonstrate the transparenc
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> However in the interests of transparency I feel that a voluntary,
> opt-in "Register of Interests" is a good idea for the project. I feel
> that such a list (populated) would demonstrate the transparency and
> openness that are part of our project's values.
I think this
On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 09:16:21AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> To that end I sat down just now to create it. Unfortunately wiki.d.o appears
> to have died whilst I was doing so.
Here's the wiki page : https://wiki.debian.org/RegisterOfInterests
Hi all,
>From time to time (usually during flamewars) the issue of potential conflicts
of interests sometimes comes up in various places in our around our community.
I wish to first state that I have never felt that any Debian contributor that
I know has ever acted against the best interests of t
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